1st Week
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Topic: 1st Week
Posted By: The Blues
Subject: 1st Week
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2024 at 16:02
Some interesting fixtures to start the season off
Friday Scottish v Coventry Nottingham v Cornish Pirates
Saturday Doncaster Knights v Ampthill Bedford Blues v Caldy Cambridge v Chinnor Ealing Trailfinders v Hartpury
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Posted By: John Butler42
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2024 at 15:18
Scottish v Coventry 1- 5 Nottingham v Pirates 1 - 5 Knights v Ampthill 5 - 1 Bedford v Caldy 5 - 0 Cambridge v Chinnor 4 - 1 Ealing v Hartpury 5 - 1
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Posted By: fatbear
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2024 at 16:41
Scottish 0-5 Coventry Nottingham 0-5 Cornish Pirates Doncaster Knights 5-0 Ampthill Bedford Blues 5-0 Caldy Cambridge 1-4 Chinnor Ealing Trailfinders 5-0 Hartpury
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Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2024 at 16:53
Scottish 1-5 Coventry Nottingham 5-2 Cornish Pirates Doncaster Knights 5-1 Ampthill Bedford Blues 5-0 Caldy Cambridge 2-2 Chinnor Ealing Trailfinders 5-1 Hartpury
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Posted By: *Stalwart
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2024 at 18:24
No idea really!
Scottish 0-5 Coventry Nottingham 1-4 Cornish Pirates Doncaster Knights 5-0 Ampthill Bedford Blues 5-0 Caldy Cambridge 2-2 Chinnor Ealing Trailfinders 5-0 Hartpury
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2024 at 18:51
Scottish 0-5 Coventry Nottingham 0-5 Cornish Pirates Doncaster Knights 5-1Ampthill Bedford Blues 5-0 Caldy Cambridge 1-5 Chinnor Ealing Trailfinders 5-0 Hartpury
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2024 at 19:09
As with Stalwart I have no idea as of yet.
Scottish 0-5 Coventry Nottingham 5-2 Cornish Pirates Doncaster Knights 5-1 Ampthill Bedford Blues 5-0 Caldy Cambridge 2-2 Chinnor Ealing Trailfinders 5-0 Hartpury
Good luck all.
------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Posted By: All the Way
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2024 at 19:10
London Scottish 1-5 Coventry Nottingham 0-5 Cornish Pirates Doncaster Knights 5-0 Ampthill Bedford Blues 5-1 Caldy Cambridge 1-4 Chinnor Ealing Trailfinders 5-0 Hartpury
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Posted By: renbiv
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2024 at 19:53
London Scottish 1-5 Coventry Nottingham 2-5 Cornish Pirates Doncaster Knights 5-0 Ampthill Bedford Blues 5-1 Caldy Cambridge 5-2 Chinnor
Ealing Trailfinders 5-0 Hartpury
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Posted By: greenpower
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2024 at 19:58
scottish 1 5 coventry nottingham 1 5 pirates doncaster 5 1 ampthill bedford 5 0 caldy cambridge 1 4 chinnor ealing 5 0 hartpury
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Posted By: Jezmar
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2024 at 07:33
Scottish 0 v 5 Coventry Nottingham 1 v 4 Cornish Pirates Doncaster Knights 5 v 0 Ampthill Bedford Blues 5 v 0 Caldy Cambridge 1 v 5 Chinnor Ealing Trailfinders 5 v 0 Hartpury
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Posted By: MarkyMark
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2024 at 07:34
scottish 0 5 coventry nottingham 4 1 pirates doncaster 5 0 ampthill bedford 5 0 caldy cambridge 2 4 chinnor ealing 5 0 hartpury
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Posted By: rugbyenthuser
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2024 at 14:22
Scottish 1 v 5 Coventry Nottingham 1 v 4 Cornish Pirates Doncaster Knights 5 v 1 Ampthill Bedford Blues 5 v 1 Caldy Cambridge 1 v 5 Chinnor Ealing Trailfinders 5 v 1 Hartpury
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2024 at 00:58
Scottish 1 v 5 Coventry - Coventry should win but I think Scottish are a bogey team for Coventry, so almost went the other way Nottingham 5 v 2 Cornish Pirates - Think this could go either way, but Nottingham tend to start strong and then fall away Doncaster Knights 5 v 2 Ampthill - Knights to win, but Ampthill could surprise Knights if they are off their game Bedford Blues 5 v 1 Caldy - Should be a high scoring game with Blues going to sleep to let some late Caldy tries in Cambridge 4 v 1 Chinnor - Could go either way, going with home advantage and now Championship experience and could be an important match at the bottom end of the table Ealing Trailfinders 5 v 0 Hartpury - virtually all Ealing matches should be 5 - 0
No need to include me in the Prediction league assuming it is running, as I usually end up missing many weeks!
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Posted By: BigChief
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2024 at 09:46
London Scottish 2 - 5 Coventry Nottingham 5 - 2 Cornish Pirates Doncaster Knights 5 - 1 Ampthill Bedford Blues 5 - 0 Caldy Cambridge 5 - 2 Chinnor Ealing Trailfinders 5 - 1 Hartpury
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Posted By: Old Gold
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2024 at 10:46
Scottish 4 - 1 Coventry Nottingham 0 - 5 Cornish Pirates Doncaster 5 - 2 Ampthill Bedford 5 - 1 Caldy Cambridge 0 - 5 Chinnor Ealing 5 - 0 Hartpury
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2024 at 11:12
The Blues wrote:
Scottish 1 v 5 Coventry - Coventry should win but I think Scottish are a bogey team for Coventry, so almost went the other way
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Cov won five of their last six league meetings, so not really what I'd class as our bogey team. Having said that, Old Gold is probably the closest so far...
------------- Our City, Our Club
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2024 at 13:37
Kimbo wrote:
The Blues wrote:
Scottish 1 v 5 Coventry - Coventry should win but I think Scottish are a bogey team for Coventry, so almost went the other way
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Cov won five of their last six league meetings, so not really what I'd class as our bogey team. Having said that, Old Gold is probably the closest so far... |
I was more thinking away from home but may have had the wrong impression.
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2024 at 13:59
Apparently the RFU have instructed Doncaster to wear their change strip because of a clash with Amptill? Shouldn't it be the away team who changes.
Just found out it's because both Amptill strips are too much of a clash with Donny's home strip.
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Posted By: renbiv
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2024 at 15:49
KnightsBoy wrote:
Apparently the RFU have instructed Doncaster to wear their change strip because of a clash with Amptill? Shouldn't it be the away team who changes.
Just found out it's because both Amtill strips are toouch of a clash with Donny's home strip. |
I thought the home team changes, think of it as your main and change kit. the home team has access to all their kit, and the expectation is the travelling team would bring 1 kit, their main kit, then in the event of a clash the home team have the ability to change, hence you would typically see the home team in their change kit. That's how I think it works/should work, but I am sure others more in the know will correct me if I am wrong!
Obviously, as you added, there can be some teams where both kits clash, then there needs to be some further planning to mitigate that!
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2024 at 17:10
renbiv wrote:
KnightsBoy wrote:
Apparently the RFU have instructed Doncaster to wear their change strip because of a clash with Amptill? Shouldn't it be the away team who changes.
Just found out it's because both Amtill strips are toouch of a clash with Donny's home strip. |
I thought the home team changes, think of it as your main and change kit. the home team has access to all their kit, and the expectation is the travelling team would bring 1 kit, their main kit, then in the event of a clash the home team have the ability to change, hence you would typically see the home team in their change kit. That's how I think it works/should work, but I am sure others more in the know will correct me if I am wrong!
Obviously, as you added, there can be some teams where both kits clash, then there needs to be some further planning to mitigate that!
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Regulation 13.6.3i.e. It is the responsibility of the AWAY team (NOT THE HOME TEAM) to change shirts if there is a clash of colours.
Obviously clubs ought to have enough nous to ensure that their 'home' and 'away' kits are completely different though.
------------- Our City, Our Club
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2024 at 19:20
KnightsBoy wrote:
Apparently the RFU have instructed Doncaster to wear their change strip because of a clash with Amptill? Shouldn't it be the away team who changes.
Just found out it's because both Amptill strips are too much of a clash with Donny's home strip.
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Home teams have traditionally changed.
I do remember though London Welsh came to Blues in their away blue kit once. I think they may have done that to try and wind us up, as we already said we were playing in our normal blue one.
The result was Blues got out their old red 3rd kit and gave it to London Welsh to play in their traditional colours. Welsh then covered up the Blues logo.
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Posted By: Donnyknightfan
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2024 at 21:01
Here we go again: London Scottish 0 - 5 Coventry Nottingham 1 - 4 Cornish Pirates Doncaster 4 - 1 Ampthill Bedford 5 - 1 Caldy Cambridge 4 - 1 Chinnor Ealing 5 - 0 Hartpury
From a Doncaster perspective, I’m a little nervous about this opening fixture. Ampthill beat us twice last season and are never an easy team to beat. They will see all the hype about Donny during the summer and they’ll be massively motivated to give us a bloody nose. I’m looking forward to the game though - it should be a cracker.
------------- Donny Knights - best team in Yorkshire
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Posted By: SKalpy
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2024 at 23:07
From level 2 to 4 it has always been the away side that has has to change. This has been the case for the last 21 seasons of my involvement as kit guy for my club. It's not old school I know but if you have 13 shirt sponsors on your home kit they get a little peeved if they don't see their name on the shirt. Change strips can last for at least 5 years if you only need to wear it 2 or 3 times a year.
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2024 at 10:54
SKalpy wrote:
From level 2 to 4 it has always been the away side that has has to change. This has been the case for the last 21 seasons of my involvement as kit guy for my club. It's not old school I know but if you have 13 shirt sponsors on your home kit they get a little peeved if they don't see their name on the shirt. Change strips can last for at least 5 years if you only need to wear it 2 or 3 times a year. |
Quite.
------------- Our City, Our Club
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Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2024 at 11:03
Doncaster and Ampthill have played against each other on numerous occasions before. Why is there a problem now?
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2024 at 12:44
Blues have 5 Saints in the squad, as they picked up a number of injuries against the Saints although I almost forgot that Jake Garside is a Saint!
Bedford Blues starting XV: 15. Louis James, 14. Matt Worley, 13. Lucas Titherington, 12. Michael Le Bourgeois (C), 11. Alfie Garside, 10. Will Maisey, 9. James Lennon; 1. Joey Conway, 2. Tommy Herman, 3. Oisin Heffernan, 4. George Smith, 5. Luke Frost, 6. Fred Tuilagi, 7. Jac Arthur, 8. Cameron King Bedford Blues Replacements: 16. Nathan Langdon, 17. Jamie Jack, 18. Bryan O’Connor, 19. Shay Kerry, 20. Archie Benson, 21. Jake Garside, 22. Toby Cousins, 23. Joel Matavesi Unavailable for selection this week: James Fish, Alex Woolford, Rory Ward, Joe Howard, Alex Day, Dean Adamson, Jamie Elliott, Pat Tapley
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Posted By: JZSmith
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2024 at 12:57
The Blues wrote:
KnightsBoy wrote:
Apparently the RFU have instructed Doncaster to wear their change strip because of a clash with Amptill? Shouldn't it be the away team who changes.
Just found out it's because both Amptill strips are too much of a clash with Donny's home strip.
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Home teams have traditionally changed.
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Very many years ago when I started watching rugby I recall this being the case but I guess it changed with the advent of professionalism, league rugby etc.
With regard to changing shirts Harlequins didn't have a change shirt for 140-odd years until the Premiership ordered them to not only have one but to wear it on occasions. Yet another instance of them getting it wrong in my opinion.
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Posted By: Nat1
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2024 at 13:11
Cherub wrote:
Doncaster and Ampthill have played against each other on numerous occasions before. Why is there a problem now? |
Agreed. Unless I'm out of the loop, do Ampthill still not play in their traditional maroon and gold, and Doncaster in blue? A non-issue surely.
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Posted By: Nat1
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2024 at 13:22
London Scottish 2 - 5 Coventry. A closer game than it might be if played later in the season, but the full-time outfit to win after a solid pre-season. Nottingham 1 - 4 Cornish Pirates. Ditto here, but less tries being run in at a greasy Lady Bay. Doncaster 5 - 1 Ampthill. Donny to start off on the right foot this year and give Ealing a run for their money at the top, maybe. Bedford 5 - 0 Caldy. The honeymoon period for The Ravers is over, and the rest of the league has worked them out. Proficient up front, but lacking creativity and flair in the backs. Many scores here to please the Blues faithful. Cambridge 4 - 1 Chinnor. Game of the week, for the fact it'll be a real dogfight from start to finish (much like their seasons as a whole) scrapping for points to keep the Champ dream alive (along with Caldy). Home advantage and a fuller pre-season to swing it for the B&S this time. Ealing 5 - 0 Hartpury. Ealing to drop very few points all season, and this time next year (deservedly) starting their maiden voyage in the Premiership.
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2024 at 14:12
The Blues wrote:
Blues have 5 Saints in the squad, as they picked up a number of injuries against the Saints although I almost forgot that Jake Garside is a Saint!
Bedford Blues starting XV: 15. Louis James, 14. Matt Worley, 13. Lucas Titherington, 12. Michael Le Bourgeois (C), 11. Alfie Garside, 10. Will Maisey, 9. James Lennon; 1. Joey Conway, 2. Tommy Herman, 3. Oisin Heffernan, 4. George Smith, 5. Luke Frost, 6. Fred Tuilagi, 7. Jac Arthur, 8. Cameron King Bedford Blues Replacements: 16. Nathan Langdon, 17. Jamie Jack, 18. Bryan O’Connor, 19. Shay Kerry, 20. Archie Benson, 21. Jake Garside, 22. Toby Cousins, 23. Joel Matavesi Unavailable for selection this week: James Fish, Alex Woolford, Rory Ward, Joe Howard, Alex Day, Dean Adamson, Jamie Elliott, Pat Tapley
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So George Smith moved to a Prem club to play Champ rugby? It figures I guess...
------------- Our City, Our Club
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2024 at 14:37
Kimbo wrote:
The Blues wrote:
Blues have 5 Saints in the squad, as they picked up a number of injuries against the Saints although I almost forgot that Jake Garside is a Saint!
Bedford Blues starting XV: 15. Louis James, 14. Matt Worley, 13. Lucas Titherington, 12. Michael Le Bourgeois (C), 11. Alfie Garside, 10. Will Maisey, 9. James Lennon; 1. Joey Conway, 2. Tommy Herman, 3. Oisin Heffernan, 4. George Smith, 5. Luke Frost, 6. Fred Tuilagi, 7. Jac Arthur, 8. Cameron King Bedford Blues Replacements: 16. Nathan Langdon, 17. Jamie Jack, 18. Bryan O’Connor, 19. Shay Kerry, 20. Archie Benson, 21. Jake Garside, 22. Toby Cousins, 23. Joel Matavesi Unavailable for selection this week: James Fish, Alex Woolford, Rory Ward, Joe Howard, Alex Day, Dean Adamson, Jamie Elliott, Pat Tapley
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So George Smith moved to a Prem club to play Champ rugby? It figures I guess... |
The Blues website says Northampton Saints’ George Smith runs out in blue for the first time having been chosen in the engine room, while having settled in during pre-season but he hasn't played a pre-season game with us.
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2024 at 15:54
Ealing Trailfinders to host Hartpury: - Kyle Whyte
- Matt Cornish
- George Davis
- Matas Jurevicius
- Danny Cutmore
- Rob Farrar
- Jordy Reid
- Josh Taylor
- Lloyd Williams
- Dan Jones
- Tom Collins
- Jordan Holgate
- Reuben Bird-Tulloch
- Angus Kernohan
- Tobi Wilson
- Mike Willemse
- James Kenny
- Biyi Alo
- Sean Lonsdale
- Rayn Smid
- Craig Hampson
- Craig Willis
- Francis Moore
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