Zak Poole joins Sheffield RUFC
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Topic: Zak Poole joins Sheffield RUFC
Posted By: Rothman2
Subject: Zak Poole joins Sheffield RUFC
Date Posted: 05 May 2025 at 15:40
https://x.com/sheffieldrufc/status/1919337667524804682?s=46" rel="nofollow - https://x.com/sheffieldrufc/status/1919337667524804682?s=46
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Posted By: NationalLeagueBadger
Date Posted: 05 May 2025 at 16:24
That seems a very strange move?
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Posted By: backrowb
Date Posted: 05 May 2025 at 18:16
If Ryan Burrows is retiring from level 4 rugby, I wonder if he will play lower down.
Poole is a great signing. Can understand why players don't want to do Nat 1 mileage if based in the North.
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Posted By: Sid James
Date Posted: 07 May 2025 at 08:20
I hear Burrows is joining Wath-Upon-Dearne RUFC for his final season. Could be where he first started?
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Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 10 May 2025 at 19:21
Zak could be in for a shock if Sheffield are sent to Nat2East!
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Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 10 May 2025 at 22:03
That would be an interesting (albeit bizarre) for Sheffield to have to move. Interesting in the sense that, if that did happen, they’d be up against the likes of London Welsh and Esher.
Surely that can’t happen, can it? I’d have thought SKiwifruithorpe would be better candidates to move east but up to now I hadn’t given it much thought. Will have to get the map out.
At what point is this decided?
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Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 10 May 2025 at 23:15
Anything can happen when the RFU chuck the 42 Nat2 post codes into the computer. If a club was required to go East it certainly wouldn't be Scunny - Sheffield (or Tigers) would be first dibs. Macclesfield, Chester, Newport(Salop) never thought they'd be heading South West (maybe also Lymm for 25/26) but it happened! Usually June when leagues are announced
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Posted By: Deva Delinquent
Date Posted: 11 May 2025 at 08:39
Thatbloke wrote:
Anything can happen when the RFU chuck the 42 Nat2 post codes into the computer. If a club was required to go East it certainly wouldn't be Scunny - Sheffield (or Tigers) would be first dibs.Macclesfield, Chester, Newport(Salop) never thought they'd be heading South West (maybe also Lymm for 25/26) but it happened! Usually June when leagues are announced |
We already know that when it comes down to Chester and Lymm, Chester are the ones to move (as per 23/24 season).
One thing's for sure, the side that has to go East or West will just have to suck it up as under the current structure there's no other way to do it.
Wouldn't be so bad if the RFU were funding travel...
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Posted By: SK 88
Date Posted: 12 May 2025 at 13:19
Two clubs have to go south, or rather not be in the northern most division, as there are 16 "Northern" clubs at level 4 next season.
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Posted By: One For The Ditch
Date Posted: 12 May 2025 at 18:51
Posted By: Paul Rogan
Date Posted: 23 May 2025 at 10:52
Ryan works at Wath academy..
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Posted By: Sid James
Date Posted: 25 May 2025 at 14:25
Heard yesterday from Somerset Chairman that Rossendale are going West!
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Posted By: backrowb
Date Posted: 25 May 2025 at 16:32
Sid James wrote:
Heard yesterday from Somerset Chairman that Rossendale are going West! |
Can't see how that could be right.
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Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 25 May 2025 at 18:53
Absolute b******s - who puts this twaddle out? Chester(again) yes - Rossendale absolutely not They could, of course, stop all this tittle-tattle by actually telling us the split at Nat2, seeing as all the leagues below were "declared" last week
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Posted By: Vade
Date Posted: 26 May 2025 at 11:36
Why not increase division size. More matches to watch. Extend the season and use free weeks.
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Posted By: Sail By
Date Posted: 26 May 2025 at 13:03
Check out Sheffield Tigers socials...brilliant!!
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Posted By: Vade
Date Posted: 26 May 2025 at 17:37
Yes. Brilliant for Tigers hence my post, but not so good for some other clubs!!
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Posted By: Sid James
Date Posted: 27 May 2025 at 12:00
Thatbloke wrote:
Absolute b******s - who puts this twaddle out?Chester(again) yes - Rossendale absolutely not They could, of course, stop all this tittle-tattle by actually telling us the split at Nat2, seeing as all the leagues below were "declared" last week
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What is not "absolute b******s" is that the Someset Chairman had an email from his league rep which stated that Rossedale were going West.
Glad Sheff Tigers are staying North, quite right too. I understand they kicked up quite a fuss causing the RFU to 'U turn'. I agree with Vade, why not have one more Club in N2N. Gives us all another home match pay day.
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Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 27 May 2025 at 12:22
Extra club was proposed (and kicked out) when we had the Chester/Lymm debate for 23/24 season. It's still a bit of a dog's dinner and the sooner they make it into the 4 regions at L4 the better
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Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 27 May 2025 at 12:49
I have heard a whisper about a second side being promoted from Nat1 into the Championship, which would mean another side promoted up from one of the Nat2 leagues, this might have an effect on who goes where I guess.
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Posted By: cheshire exile
Date Posted: 27 May 2025 at 12:52
tigerburnie wrote:
I have heard a whisper about a second side being promoted from Nat1 into the Championship, which would mean another side promoted up from one of the Nat2 leagues, this might have an effect on who goes where I guess. |
Surely this is nonsense? We know who the 12 Championship clubs are.
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 27 May 2025 at 13:39
tigerburnie wrote:
I have heard a whisper about a second side being promoted from Nat1 into the Championship, which would mean another side promoted up from one of the Nat2 leagues, this might have an effect on who goes where I guess. |
Is this the “whisper” you were talking about TB? A possibility for 2 teams to come up this time next year, if the N1 runners-up can win a playoff against a Champ side?
https://www.championshiprugby.co.uk/follow/news-media/welcome-proving-ground" rel="nofollow - https://www.championshiprugby.co.uk/follow/news-media/welcome-proving-ground
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Posted By: semisonic
Date Posted: 27 May 2025 at 13:41
14 Champ clubs. The only way that would make sense would be if Worcester could not meet the debt repayment schedule agreed, or if another Champ club has financial difficulties to the point they could not fulfil fixtures next year.
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Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 27 May 2025 at 22:00
This is from the RFU statement on league club placings, which adds to the notion that all is still not yet finalised higher up.
"League Fixtures for the 2025-26 season are being finalised and will be published in due course. Further information around play-off proposals which impact National League Rugby still need to be agreed and finalised. We will provide updates as soon as we hear them."
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Posted By: backrowb
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2025 at 08:37
Tigers stayed in N2N, but from their Facebook page it looks like they were going south but refused to go. How does that work?
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Posted By: Red over White
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2025 at 12:40
backrowb wrote:
Tigers stayed in N2N, but from their Facebook page it looks like they were going south but refused to go.How does that work? |
It will be interesting to know what Lymm RFC think about this
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Posted By: backrowb
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2025 at 21:11
Red over White wrote:
backrowb wrote:
Tigers stayed in N2N, but from their Facebook page it looks like they were going south but refused to go.How does that work? |
It will be interesting to know what Lymm RFC think about this |
Unhappy would be an understatement
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Posted By: JZSmith
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2025 at 10:52
Depends if it is true or not of course.
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Posted By: Pr10r
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2025 at 13:13
My guess would be that Macclesfield requested (demanded) that they are in the North to celebrate their 150 years with other Northern clubs and Lymm being the next nearest club, were forced to move? Chester unfortunately for them were always going to move to West?
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Posted By: cheshire exile
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2025 at 15:06
I don’t know whether events like 150th anniversaries cut much ice with the powers that be nowadays. It seems more likely to me that, for the group of clubs from Camborne up the A30 and M5, it is easier to get to Chester and Lymm than to Macclesfield.
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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2025 at 23:55
The real problem is that N1 has very few northern sides which means that there are too many northern sides at N2 level, so in the current configuration means some have to be moved to the South - normally South- west which is were the deficiency is,
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Posted By: cheshire exile
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2025 at 08:24
Raider999 wrote:
The real problem is that N1 has very few northern sides which means that there are too many northern sides at N2 level, so in the current configuration means some have to be moved to the South - normally South- west which is were the deficiency is, |
Isn’t it called Nat2West?
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Posted By: backrowb
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2025 at 08:50
We know what the problem is, but it has the solution been fair in this instance. Can a club just refuse and stay in the league they're at?
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Posted By: cheshire exile
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2025 at 09:57
Lymm will have lower travel mileage than Camborne and Redruth, who have not moaned about two trips to Cheshire and three to the well known western county of Leicestershire.
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Posted By: Oldman1
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2025 at 11:25
Is there any provision in the regulations for a club to reject the option of promotion?
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Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2025 at 15:31
Posted By: CarriedBackIn
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2025 at 18:03
By the sounds of the post on Sheffield Tigers Facebook they were initially chosen. What criteria was used for this and then what criteria was later used to decide Lynn should move instead? Surely some openness is needed. Did they get things wrong initially. How and why?
It will always be unfortunate and tough for any team at the outliers of their region, but clubs should understand what criteria these decisions are based on to ensure fairness and transparency to all. Surely having John Inverdale on speed dial can't be an adequate reason to change their minds
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Posted By: backrowb
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2025 at 19:32
CarriedBackIn wrote:
By the sounds of the post on Sheffield Tigers Facebook they were initially chosen. What criteria was used for this and then what criteria was later used to decide Lynn should move instead? Surely some openness is needed. Did they get things wrong initially. How and why?
It will always be unfortunate and tough for any team at the outliers of their region, but clubs should understand what criteria these decisions are based on to ensure fairness and transparency to all. Surely having John Inverdale on speed dial can't be an adequate reason to change their minds
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Agreed 100%
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Posted By: Sid James
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2025 at 08:18
ThatBloke is wrong! See Below from NLR Admin Instructions:
2.4.2 EXEMPTION FROM PROMOTION
A Club is permitted to apply to the Organising Committee to request an exemption from promotion subject to
the following conditions:
• such request is received by the Organising Committee no later than the 31st of January of the
Season.
• subject to the Club achieving a promotion place, this right to submit a request is only available to each
Club once on each occasion that it is at each level of the Leagues; and
• the Club must demonstrate that promotion would be detrimental to the finances and infrastructure of
the Club
The request will be considered by the Committee who may request such additional information and supporting
evidence as it requires. If a request is approved by the Committee and a Club is granted an exemption from
promotion for the next season the following will apply:
• if the Club finishes in an automatic promotion place, the highest placed Club in the league above who
was due to be relegated the following season will be reprieved from relegation.
• if the Club finishes in a play-off place, then their opponents shall be awarded a walk-over.
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