https://www.ncarugby.com/national-1/chinnor-player-banned-for-two-years-for-anti-doping-rule-violation/" rel="nofollow - Chinnor Player - Doping Violation - NCA

https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/sport/other-sport/plymouth-albion-start-2020-21-4353168" rel="nofollow - PARFC - Major  Sanction for Financial Negligence - Herald

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Perhaps some kind soul more accustomed to dealing with the powers that be can find a better source than that listed for the latter story (The Herald lacks credibility among the Plymouth faithful). The gist of the article is that Albion made an error similar to Rams on payments/material benefits.

I couldn't see anything on RFU or NCA...

It's like the RFU don't realise that the game is tun by well meaning volunteers 

Losing the RFU Travel money is not disastrous, another effect of such a breach would be the loss of CB income, in our case over £50k so that would have been significant. Other Clubs that breached the "cap" didn't have that concern. 

I have not seen the form, but I thought the point was that four officers had to sign it off.

The point being that each one should check it is accurate.

Though Medway also originally claimed to the RFU that the players were amateur while they were giving them semi-pro benefits without declaring them. Medway's wasn't just an administrative oversight.

Your post doesn't make any sense at all. 

If you recall at the time Medway were castigated by all around them, yet it was well known other local clubs "amateur players" were benefitting from playing rugby, in the Kent press there was an article that clubs were poaching yet no one had followed their complaints up. My club was at L6 at the same time and we were very aware of players receiving material benefits and not just in Kent.

From my limited research, all the cases of clubs being disciplined are where the said club has made the RFU aware themselves, either through declaring their accounts for grants, loans or allowances or where a club has complained of players being poached.

I can’t remember exactly but I think there were also immigration offences with Medway - players incorrectly declared as British.

As has the Kit manager.

Reported on the Leeds board and Linkedin posts.

A very good point! One that no doubt the Blazers at the RFU have considered................... over a long lunch. 

Clubs with sizeable Clubhouses/facilities almost certainly need a regular income to simply meet the regular bills & expenses that having such facilities will bring. A large part of that income is usually not rugby related and, rugby apart, it is probably the loss of this income which is currently crippling 'asset' rich Clubs.

I assume that Clubs who do not own their Clubhouse/Playing facilities and simply finance a 1stXV squad will probably be feeling little financial effect from the Covid-19 restrictions.

That won't end well. 

If true, it could do if a relationship between DMP and Chinese clubs can be developed. Hiwever, are there any football teams looking fir a new home?

Opportunity for Wasps' next move north?

Or Falcons move south as they seek bigger crowds?

Did your (very reliable) nephew tell you that...?

Check your device. Suspect you have a virus

Beats the standard steak pie or burger...

RR

Are they that much in the soup?

I guess they could always re-name it the Bird's Nest.

If your nephew has been Peking he could probably confirm that.

I understand this to be a minor issue 

It's not his device that has the virus.

Which has some pretty major inaccuracies, hence the statement at  https://www.mowdenpark.com/news/club-statement--darlington-sports-village-2549031.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.mowdenpark.com/news/club-statement--darlington-sports-village-2549031.html  

Yes I read that at the time. Not a lot of detail about what was actually inaccurate. It was reassuring to read that long term finances are sound but then an extraordinary general meeting is called.

My point about this being  minor issue was this was money assisgned for a development which to date has not happened. As such can't miss money you never had and any business plan based around proposed investments is always destined to fail

You can miss revenue you were expecting to generate as part of a longer term business plan. Never been a DMP member just a fairly frequent spectator so will have to rely on others for updates. Hopefully all will be well. 

This might not be received too well as some of the points are probably valid.

If not and it is this seasons then its no financial sanction at all given the RFU have withdrawn support for the NCA and there won't be any travel money.

Enjoyed reading the letter, ignore the actual 'offence' and the general tone puts across perfectly the problems clubs face when ever dealing with the RFU.

As I understand it one person should be able to fill it in.

The other three merely need to check and sign it. 

The idea is that all four are declaring the form is correct.

I would hope you can fix it up until the point all four have signed. 

However, as I am not on the committee I have not seen the interface.

Those 4 roles are those that the RFU holds responsible for each Club.

But the RFU's attitude appears to be that if four people have to sign it, and three of them couldn't be bothered to check that the first person had done it correctly, then the club has been negligent.

 

In the good old days (3 years ago) you had to manually fill out the form and send it to Nicky Cook. Who whilst she was a stickler for the rules she also very, very helpful. GMS has replaced all the manual entry bit and you basically have to answer some Yes/No Tick Boxes, if you don't understand the question you could still ask for help just don't press SEND until you were ready. It then required the other 3 "Golden" Role people to read and click confirm, kind of a anti-negligence check. So yes its sad they did PA for a clerical error but it looks a bit negligent to a man on a galloping horse does it not?

No supporting documents are requested by the RFU.

In true GMS style thought the IT around the system only works when it want to!

One problem with the declaration for lower clubs was when the Chairman was also the Treasurer and the guy who washed the kit as well as marking the pitches etc etc. GMS would not accept that someone could have multiple Golden Roles and went in to melt down.

I understand that governance are looking to drop the 4 signatories to 2 at lower league levels to ease the process. 

They pay them?

Well you'd think so, but it does beg the question of why it was on the National 1 board - never mind any confusion with Ionians (who, like last time, I'm sorry to lose - good fans, good ground)

Those players are now out of the game for sometime, thank goodness 

That is quite a 'throw away' comment FC. Can you support it?

I prefer to believe that there are far more players who do not break the rules, than those that do.

Puli,

To be fair, the 'old news' is that all 3 incidents occurred in Feb 2019 but, the posting refers to the 'new'' news' that the 2 further sanction decisions have  finally been decided, in July 2020. The first sanction decision was in Nov 2019. Even with delays due to Covid-19, 17 months is quite some time for the remaining 2 players to await their fate. 

Do you think 3 UKAD Sanctions at one RU Club is evidence of systemic failure at the Club or, would you say that the individual players are wholly responsible? I believe all 3 players were regular players at the time of the incidents but they have since left Hull RUFC. Do you know if they were asked to leave?

Were the club aware of the 'goings on' which I doubt but were the DOR and Coaching staff aware of what was happening

I agree that this kind of enhancement is possible and kept away from the club executive but  the game side of the club must have had knowledge of the miscreants when 3 players were involved. It is . also interesting that an foreign international was involved. was he who introduced the options to local kads

Marigold,

Would you not agree that generally, a player would 'avoid' being tested for one reason only?

I don't think OP made any 'slur' against foreign players. OP said 'foreign international'. I believe that OP was referring to the higher level of rugby played by that individual, which may in turn have seen him need to remain at a higher level of fitness. In his case, through the use of banned substances. 

This player was a prolific try scorer at Levels 4 & 5. We now know he 'cheated'. How would you feel if this 'cheat' had scored a number of tries against your club in a level 5 match? 

I agree that this is a sad state of affairs but to say that this 'cheating' is less dangerous than drink driving is strange indeed. I don't see the comparability?

within a game that relies on players having such a quick turnaround after the punishment the body takes on a Saturday afternoon, It is not possible for the body to recover the required amount between games let alone adding team training and also Personal training on top of that

TT you know as well as most this is the case, however I understand you always missed legs day