How big is yours?
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Topic: How big is yours?
Posted By: FHLH
Subject: How big is yours?
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2024 at 13:13
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Pitch size is more important than a flat pitch in my view. A full size playing field can be 144 metres - 100m in play (22-28-22-28) and 44m in goal (2*22) plus 70m wide - a playing area of just over 2 acres (about 30 houses). Google earth will reveal all but I'm certain that Twickenham doesn't have a full size in goal area.
------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
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Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2024 at 13:32
| They don't. I know clubs who have ones bigger than Twickenham |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2024 at 13:34
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Cambridge has just replaced two slightly undersized pitches, the one used by the women and thirds and one hardly used, with one "full-size" pitch. This means they have a longer pitch, and it can be used as an alternative to the main pitch in case of a medical emergency meaning play needs to be moved. However, while each have decent in-goals, neither are the full 22m. The 2023 revision of the laws introduced minimum sizes for pitches. Previously, those have been in the playing conditions for the various leagues. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2024 at 16:00
I wouldn’t like to say FHLH   However at Park Lane, pitch size is it’s 100 x 70 with the in goal areas both at 12 metres. All the best ST ------------- Give him one with handles on |
FHLH wrote:Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2024 at 20:17
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Blues have been shrinking as the RFU don't like the advertising boards. Apparently the Premiership is demanding that soft padding is added.
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Posted By: kempstonblue
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2024 at 21:19
I had not noticed any shrinkage. ------------- The older I get, the more the RFU leave me confused. |
Posted By: SKalpy
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2024 at 23:32
| If you put soft padding at Bath then the dead ball line would be infront of the posts |
Posted By: SKalpy
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2024 at 23:59
| Sorry but I may have have one too many. Why are level 2 and 3 clubs expected to comply with the minimum standards for participation at level 2 when there are clubs at level 1 that clearly do not qualify. It is an absolute disgrace. I know that the decisions are made by the PRL and the RFU have little or no say because of monetary matters but when are the council are going to grow some bolloc*cks and say this not in the best interest of the game as a whole, the game that they are mandated to run. |
Posted By: SKalpy
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2024 at 00:07
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Sorry for going of topic but to correct ST our in goal area is 13 meters, I know because I set it out.
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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2024 at 02:59
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I had a look via Google Earth and found most photos were taken out of season during a drought. However, I found that most clubs and national stadia have 70m wide, 100m in play and 10m in goal - which is a shame as I believe a full size 22m in goal would bring a new dimension to the game (and needing to read the laws relating to in goal play) ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2024 at 07:17
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Esher used to have full 22 metre goal areas, and still have the space for them. We were asked to reduce them when we were at Level 2. We don’t have soft padding boards, though. We used to enjoy long kick chases into the deep goal areas!
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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2024 at 11:03
RFU or players request? ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2024 at 12:06
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SK Apologies I undersold us by a metre in each in goal.😂😂😂😂 All the best ST ------------- Give him one with handles on |
Posted By: sedgley dave
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2024 at 23:04
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We have room for more than 12 (or 13) metres, but I believe 8 to 15 to be optimum. Less than that, and the defender kicking is under undue pressure, more than that is...well a bit silly, though certainly an added dimension. Does the Law stipulate that the two in-goals have to be the same size? I am old enough to remember the Game going metric, but my friend, SP legend George Hinds, still referred to the 25 yard line. "It's 22 metres now, George," I told him. "Like a bet?" he asked. He had measured and marked out the pitch! It wasn't even rectangular, not quite. There was a few yards (or metres) of taper at one end, to squeeze two pitches into the area now occupied by the current full-sized one + stand + terracing + car parking, etc.
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Posted By: SKalpy
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2024 at 23:45
Bloody hell Dave, that's why I was always running into touch on the bottom pitch. I wish you had told me that 40 years ago.
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Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2024 at 02:54
I believe RFU
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Posted By: workerbee
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2024 at 14:43
| Interestingly there is no criteria for a sloping pitch |
Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2024 at 15:00
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This made me download the IRB Laws App. 22m is the maximum size of an in goal area. 6m is the minimum size. And yes, no reference to flatness.
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Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2024 at 15:23
True, look at Sevenoaks. One of their in goal areas is directly up a hill.
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Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2024 at 16:31
| So if the minimum in-goal area is 6m then can I suggest that most Premiership grounds DO NOT meet that minimum standard. Certainly all those playing in football grounds do not and neither do Bath. Is there a consequence? Of course not! |
Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2024 at 16:58
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I didn't include the small print. Any variations to these dimensions must be approved by the relevant union for domestic competitions or World Rugby for international matches.
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2024 at 17:02
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Any pitch where the dead ball line is on the soccer goal line and the goal line is along the six yard box is not legal. Six yards being less than six metres. Can the visiting captain object to the pitch on the grounds it does not comply with the laws? Or could you object that not having a five-metre perimeter area makes it unsafe? ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2024 at 17:05
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Yes & Yes However the referee can resolve this and the match goes ahead.
Objections to the ground |
Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2024 at 17:21
| Thing is we are talking about established stadiums where all these issues are known beforehand. Is a team going to travel to a ground and suddenly say. "That in-goal area is only 5 metres so we're not prepared to play" |
Posted By: SK 88
Date Posted: 11 Oct 2024 at 21:05
Soft padding was added to the sponsor boards in the Premiership 20 years ago at least. It adds about 2 inches of foam at most.
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