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Topic: Playoff - predictions
Posted By: Camquin
Subject: Playoff - predictions
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2019 at 22:15
For fun only.

Canterbury - Chester

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Sweeney Delenda Est



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Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2019 at 22:18
 Canterbury1 - 4 Chester


Posted By: Darth Raider
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2019 at 22:31
 Canterbury 5  Chester 0


Posted By: WESTCOMBE RANGER
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2019 at 23:10
Canterbury 5-Chester 0

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Posted By: 2 CAP IT ALL
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2019 at 07:33
Canterbury  5  -  2  Chester


Thanks Camquin for taking over N2N and doing a great job


Posted By: Clueless like most
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2019 at 08:29
Cant 3 Chester 3
Extra time no score
Tries conversions and pens all equal.
Coin toss stands on edge so second attempt.
It’s tails but nobody called, refs fault.
Finally, a boat race to decide and Chester out drink Canterbury to win promotion to Nat 1 and become everyone’s whipping boys.
Good luck to both teams enjoy the big day.


Posted By: greenpower
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2019 at 14:40
canterbury  5  0  chester  but good luck to both teams


Posted By: fatbear
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2019 at 15:24
Canterbury 4-1 Chester
 
N2S to triumph at home again


Posted By: Redted
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2019 at 15:41
Canterbury 0 - Chester 5

Game kicks off a 2pm, Canterbury so used to 3pm are still asleep and fail  to recover when the clock ticks past 3pm.


Posted By: Deva Delinquent
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2019 at 15:57
Canterbury 5 - 2 Chester.

Going with our form away from home against the best teams we generally came off second best. If we had home advantage then I'd be a little more optimistic.

Gutted I can't make it to the game, so I'm putting my request in now for someone to give updates.


Posted By: Darth Raider
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2019 at 16:56
What can we all expect from Chester then Deva, we can see they finished second and that they appear to have the best defence in the league, but are not prolific points scorers although they registered a decent tally of TBP's.

If you want updates on here they will probably have to come from your travelling faithful.....contributions from City Side fans are pretty rare, though somebody might follow this thread I suppose ?

In the absence of any actual Canterbury input, I have watched this pretty settled side home and away quite a few times.  They themselves have defended much better this year and the ageing but very effective lock combination of Corker and Cadman have served them particularly well.

Their backs are pretty settled as a unit over several years and have also grown as a unit I think. Their half backs are named Smart and Best I think and apart from being Pronouns, they are quite accurate adjectives IMO.
They have arguably the best attacking full back in our league in Aiden Moss.  All of the other backs are good too with perhaps Mackintosh the pick of the finishers  ?

They are going to attack with ball in hand from all over the park and they are good at it.  Plus there is a nasty slope at Merton Lane that takes some getting used to.

Perhaps somebody else will give to some more accurate and better informed info.....but FWIW they will be hard to stop on their own track IMO.
 


Posted By: Alderman
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2019 at 17:08
Can’t help thinking that whichever side wins will become relegation certainties....


Posted By: Deva Delinquent
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2019 at 17:53
Darth, we can be a tough side to beat - especially at home where only Fylde managed to come away with the win this season - but our away form has been hit-and-miss. If we turn up and have confidence, expect a close game. On the other hand, I've also seen that when the doubt sets in it often leads to us leaking points and letting the game get away from us.

We've rotated a lot this season, lots of lads have come up from the seconds and have really developed, and this has really helped when injuries have hit because the lads coming in as replacements have slotted right in.

When in possession, we can really turn the screw; go through the phases and shift the ball wide, or keep plugging away to force penalties or go for the hammer stroke through the middle. Defensively we are tight when confidence is up; so many times this season I've watched strong sides camp on our 5m line for phase after phase only to return with nothing. When that confidence is gone, we lose that tightness, often conceding more than one try in quick succession.

If I'm being honest, we are another season or two off being ready for the step up to N1. But we have a chance now and the lads will absolutely be up for it. It wouldn't bother me too much if we went up and came straight back down, I think the exposure to better teams will improve us as a team.

Whatever happens next week, watching Chester this season has been an absolute pleasure. If we lose, we'll be there challenging for the top three again next year.


Posted By: French Connection
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2019 at 18:04
Canterbury 5 - 1 Chester   History shows that the home team almost always wins. Simple as that.


Posted By: Darth Raider
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2019 at 20:49
Alderman........I think that 'certainties' is a bit harsh.  You have to allow that mid-season may, in some circumstances, improve prospects.  Otherwise, I have to agree with you that it is a strong likelihood.  
Canterbury are a good and attractive side with ball in hand, but from my limited experience of Nat1, they are not likely to be allowed that.  They are not (IMO) dissimilar to the Bishops Sortford side that went up from our league, but not the BS side that now sits mid-table.

Deva.....thanks for your interesting input.   I don't think you need to worry about the City Side camping on your line through multi-phase attacks.........you will either stop them consistently in midfield or will be kicking off again Ouch  In fact your biggest problem might be losing possession in their 22.




Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2019 at 15:12
Canterbury 5 Chester 0. 

I hope I'm wrong and I sincerely wish Chester all the best in their endeavours.

Good luck fellas
 
All the best  

ST  


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Posted By: Runitback
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2019 at 15:15
Canterbury 2 - Chester 5 . . Guy Ford hat trick

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Run with it


Posted By: LockNLoader
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2019 at 15:39
Canterbury 5 - Chester 0

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#COYB


Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2019 at 16:13
Canterbury 5 Chester 1

Home advantage will be crucial, also Canterbury have a recent habit of doing enough to get the 5 points.

Would love to be there, but alas Cricket beckons.

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RAID ON


Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2019 at 18:03
Hey guys I like it - bonus points for play-off games - can these be carried over to next season as whoever prevails is going to need them in Nat1


Posted By: St Joe
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2019 at 18:13
Alderman....."Relegation Certainties" is very harsh. Is there any particular reason you think these teams would struggle or us it just the step up in standard in general?


Posted By: Deva Delinquent
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2019 at 19:36
Originally posted by Runitback Runitback wrote:

Canterbury 2 - Chester 5 . . Guy Ford hat trick

I'll take that 👍


Posted By: TimesLikeThese
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2019 at 20:43
Originally posted by St Joe St Joe wrote:

Alderman....."Relegation Certainties" is very harsh. Is there any particular reason you think these teams would struggle or us it just the step up in standard in general?

Though very early in the day to say "relegation certainties", the step up is pretty significant.

I'd say this is reflected in the league standings over the past few years. On the whole, newly-promoted sides have usually been mid-table at best in their first season in N1 regardless of whether or not they've absolutely strolled N2, and this could even be despite a pretty significant investment in personnel, link ups with Premiership/Championship clubs, etc. 


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Posted By: Darth Raider
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2019 at 21:02
there is also the fact that the City Side won all of their 14 home games before fieldinf\g a weakened side against the Champions in their last game.  Chester only won 6 games away from home all year.

If Nat2N has been platying at a higher standard this year, and as ever this is the only game that gives us any indication, then they still have a solid chance.

Hee-hee.....here is another chance to try and promote a favourite idea of mine......which to be fair has gone down like a lead balloon at least once before.

which is.....why do we not ALL play one more game at the end of the season......north v south ?  We could have an annual trophy for the winners ?  great bragging rights ?

Say Canterbury have home advantage in the playoffs......that means the teams in first and third position in Nat2S would play away from home against their northern opponents in the same league position ?

It would then alternate home and away fixtures down the league.....culminating in last v last ?

The league with the highest number of league points in the fixtures....i.e. the normal scoring system......would be champions.  You would be playing for your league as well as your club ?

I would travel anywhere to watch that and it could be a money spinner ?  gate receipts split a la wendyball ?


Posted By: pen 15
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2019 at 21:06
The step up to Nat 1 from 2 is huge.Unless your finances are big and your local premiership club lends you 10 players .

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is it stours year yet


Posted By: Darth Raider
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2019 at 21:15
I had n't read the [posts above......but I would have to agree with Alderman......from my own very limited experience of Nat1.....it will take a huge effort and some new players if Canterbury are to stay up .  I've seen all the promoted sides for (perhaps) 16yrs now......and to be fair, some of Nat2S have looked very good and indeed, have gone straight through Nat1.  I don't think the City Side have that strength in the forwards at the mo.....they MAY recruit.......I'm not sure they are a monied club though ?  Good luck to them either way and it will be an enjoyable journey regardless I suspect ? enjoy your success chaps, but still a big game to win on Saturday ?  If I was a Chester player I would be well wound up by posts such as mine ?


Posted By: The Hawks
Date Posted: 01 May 2019 at 15:22
Canterbury 5 Chester 0

Deva,
Try Canterbury twitter feed for updates, very on ball with live scores! They did have a live scoreboard on their website when we played them last month, but I don’t know if it was a one off because it was very important match for both sides?!,

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'Go The Hawks!'


Posted By: Redhead
Date Posted: 01 May 2019 at 15:49
Canterbury 5 v Chester 2


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Hellfire Awaits


Posted By: Deva Delinquent
Date Posted: 01 May 2019 at 19:38
Originally posted by The Hawks The Hawks wrote:

Canterbury 5 Chester 0

Deva,
Try Canterbury twitter feed for updates, very on ball with live scores! They did have a live scoreboard on their website when we played them last month, but I don’t know if it was a one off because it was very important match for both sides?!,


Thanks for the heads-up. I'll have a look for them on FB to see if there's any info on there. Here's hoping for a live feed - if Hoppers can do one, fingers crossed Canterbury can 🤞


Posted By: Hexhamshire Lad
Date Posted: 02 May 2019 at 15:53
Originally posted by TimesLikeThese TimesLikeThese wrote:

Originally posted by St Joe St Joe wrote:

Alderman....."Relegation Certainties" is very harsh. Is there any particular reason you think these teams would struggle or us it just the step up in standard in general?

Though very early in the day to say "relegation certainties", the step up is pretty significant.

I'd say this is reflected in the league standings over the past few years. On the whole, newly-promoted sides have usually been mid-table at best in their first season in N1 regardless of whether or not they've absolutely strolled N2, and this could even be despite a pretty significant investment in personnel, link ups with Premiership/Championship clubs, etc. 

A few years ago Blaydon and Tynedale took the step up in successive seasons and both were in the top half dozen positions in the league for a few years before dropping back to N2N. The secret to retaining a team's position in N1 would seem to be being able to replace the generation of players that secured promotion when their career's are drawing to a close. If Tyne hadn't started last season looking more like relegation candidates than a team that was going to push for promotion, it might have been even tighter at the top. I'm not going to make any rash predictions for next season like the Stourbridge mob (invariably disappointed afterwards), but another year's experience under their belt might make a difference to Tyne.


Posted By: WESTCOMBE RANGER
Date Posted: 04 May 2019 at 11:52
Just a stat about relegation. Out of the last six sides to gain promotion to Nat 1, five remain to play again next season, with only Caldy dropping back down. So it's not all doom and gloom.

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Posted By: Deva Delinquent
Date Posted: 04 May 2019 at 12:43
Originally posted by WESTCOMBE RANGER WESTCOMBE RANGER wrote:

Just a stat about relegation. Out of the last six sides to gain promotion to Nat 1, five remain to play again next season, with only Caldy dropping back down. So it's not all doom and gloom.


And they lasted two full seasons. Nothing ventured, nothing gained 😉


Posted By: Count Ford
Date Posted: 04 May 2019 at 14:40
For anyone interested...commentary of the game can be found through NCA Rugby Facebook page


Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 04 May 2019 at 15:48
Half-time: Canterbury lead 7-5


Posted By: Count Ford
Date Posted: 04 May 2019 at 16:28
Appears to be going Canterbury's way. 19-5. Just over 10 to go


Posted By: Longtime
Date Posted: 04 May 2019 at 16:52
FT
19-10
Canterbury promoted



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It pays to be wise after the event!!!


Posted By: Clive Norling
Date Posted: 04 May 2019 at 17:44
Originally posted by TimesLikeThese TimesLikeThese wrote:

Originally posted by St Joe St Joe wrote:

Alderman....."Relegation Certainties" is very harsh. Is there any particular reason you think these teams would struggle or us it just the step up in standard in general?


Though very early in the day to say "relegation certainties", the step up is pretty significant.

I'd say this is reflected in the league standings over the past few years. On the whole, newly-promoted sides have usually been mid-table at best in their first season in N1 regardless of whether or not they've absolutely strolled N2, and this could even be despite a pretty significant investment in personnel, link ups with Premiership/Championship clubs, etc. 


Guess RAMS are in trouble then!

We don't do D/R players and we're not increasing our budget significantly ....



Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 04 May 2019 at 18:02
i've seen 19-10 and 19-12, while the home club's tweeter seemingly couldn't stand the pressure and clocked off at 19-5, but either way, well done to Canterbury


Posted By: Big Eddie
Date Posted: 04 May 2019 at 20:37
Hard luck chester...so difficult to travel 270 miles and seek a difficult away win. but great consolation you get to play Caldy twice next season. How good is that?



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Posted By: Darth Raider
Date Posted: 04 May 2019 at 20:55
Thanks for that Count Ford......i listened in and it was a tense encounter.  V well done Chester......terrific defence and vigorous performance, Not quite enough on the day.  Farewell City Side.....enjoy your visit to level 3. Another win for the South Wink

Maybe Chester will get another go next year, but I can't see past Caldy and the Students myself ?


Posted By: Deva Delinquent
Date Posted: 05 May 2019 at 11:45
Originally posted by Big Eddie Big Eddie wrote:

Hard luck chester...so difficult to travel 270 miles and seek a difficult away win. but great consolation you get to play Caldy twice next season. How good is that?



Silver linings and all that, Eddie!

See you all on game week two, hopefully at your place in the glorious sunshine 😉


Posted By: Alderman
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2020 at 16:34
Originally posted by St Joe St Joe wrote:

Alderman....."Relegation Certainties" is very harsh. Is there any particular reason you think these teams would struggle or us it just the step up in standard in general?
 

I thought I would let events unfold before making a response. Quite simply my prediction was based on the way both clubs were not challengers for the title in their respective divisions. I had no axe to grind against either club but believed the standard in N1 would be too much for them unless they had demonstrated they were too strong for N2 - as Rams had.




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