Pre-Season.........
Printed From: National League Rugby Discussion Forum
Category: League Rugby - www.leaguerugby.co.uk
Forum Name: The Championship
Forum Description: Discuss the 12 clubs forming the English Championship.
URL: http://www.leaguerugby.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=17709
Printed Date: 02 May 2024 at 18:24
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 12.04 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Topic: Pre-Season.........
Posted By: Teddy1981
Subject: Pre-Season.........
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2019 at 14:30
|
http://www.jerseyreds.je/news_article/reds-invited-to-moscow-to-take-on-russian-national-team/" rel="nofollow - http://www.jerseyreds.je/news_article/reds-invited-to-moscow-to-take-on-russian-national-team/ Wow
|
Replies:
Posted By: Brizzer
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2019 at 14:51
The Red Reds  Great feather in the cap and a real honour .... I know that Russia are not a major force in world rugby, but still, what a great pre-season game that will be. |
Posted By: Teddy1981
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2019 at 14:52
|
I just hope we have a team left afterwards..... |
Posted By: Runitback
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2019 at 14:54
|
Amazing . . well done Jersey ------------- Run with it |
Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2019 at 15:36
|
That is a real pre season game.what a fantastic opportunity to showcase Jersey Rugby. Imagine the crowd that will turn up at the return game. ------------- Ambition should be made of sterner stuff. |
Posted By: billesleyexile
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2019 at 15:39
You should be ok - they have been opposition for Oxford University RFC in the last few years so Jersey ought to be able to cope with them! ------------- keep the faith |
Teddy1981 wrote:Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2019 at 16:17
| Oh injuries you mean - I thought you meant slapped in jail for spying!! 🤣🤣 (or poisoned maybe?) |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2019 at 19:12
| The Reds playing in Moscow...beautiful. |
Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2019 at 19:21
|
I'd love to see that one - any chance of a charter flight for supporters like the Falcons & Pirates games? Surely they want to experience some real banter. A wonderful city Moscow - genuinely gorgeous.
------------- Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD. |
Posted By: Old Gold
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2019 at 19:41
|
Tremendous 👍🏻 ------------- One Club |
Posted By: Member728
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2019 at 09:26
|
Well done Luc nice to hear a good rugby story
|
Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2019 at 13:50
 http://https://www.jerseyreds.je/news_article/reds-head-to-russia-for-history-making-fixture/" rel="nofollow - http://https://www.jerseyreds.je/news_article/reds-head-to-russia-for-history-making-fixture/ The local paper advises that the match will be streamed live at the rugby club from 4pm on Tuesday (kick off 5pm). ------------- Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD. |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2019 at 13:57
|
Ealing Trailfinders team to play Bishop’s Stortford in a pre-season friendly on Saturday 24th August at Trailfinders Sports Club: Really happy with this side, especially to see Craig Willis fit enough to be on the bench after apparently being injured earlier in the offseason. The only ommissions that surprise me are Alex Lundberg and Jordan Els upfront. I thought that tandem (with Walker) were far superior to Elwood and Davis last year - but it is the preseason in any event. Also - hope Jordy Reid is fit, otherwise can't see why they'd leave him out. Thank goodness rugby is back! 15 Peter Lydon 14 Seb Stegmann 13 David Johnston © 12 Harry Sloan 11 Reon Joseph 10 Steven Shingler 9 Craig Hampson 1 Jake Ellwood 2 Alun Walker 3 George Davis 4 Dave McKern 5 Harry Casson 6 Shane Buckley 7 Andrew Durutalo 8 Oli Robinson Replacements: Matt Cornish, Harry Seward, Josh Pieterse, Ben West, James Cannon, Rayn Smid, Harry Dugmore, Jordan Burns, Nathan Fowles, Craig Willis, Pat Howard, Charlie Dearman |
Posted By: Runitback
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2019 at 14:04
|
gerg 861 . . Amazed not to see Trenier starting or on bench . . injured? ------------- Run with it |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2019 at 14:36
No clue - I'll poke around the clubhouse tomorrow and see what I can find out.
|
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2019 at 20:00
|
Currently 7-5 to Mose, with an ex-Cov player scoring all their points (and another collecting a yellow) and an ex Mose player scoring all of Cov's... Funny old game. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2019 at 20:09
|
Mose 7-12 Cov ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2019 at 20:16
|
HT Mose 7-17 Cov ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2019 at 20:53
|
Mose 14-17 Cov (65 mins) ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2019 at 21:05
|
And 14-17 still at FT ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Runitback
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2019 at 21:43
|
Mose good or was it a Cov 2nd XV? Pre season games often dont give much indication . . although I am sure Mose will take a huge boost from this. ------------- Run with it |
Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2019 at 22:23
|
Blues 50 Cambridge 24. Bedford first pre-season try out, strong squad. Cambridge should be happy with result but interested in Mose/ Coventry score. Another run out tomorrow for Cambridge squad ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2019 at 23:13
|
A lot of Academy players for Cov tonight, but no excuses. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Rabbie Burns
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2019 at 23:28
|
Does that mean we have the full force turning up tomorrow ------------- So many Christians not enough Lions |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2019 at 23:32
|
No, a similar mix, but possibly slightly stronger. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Moseley Mauler
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2019 at 10:18
A good runout for both sides I thought Kimbo and a good game to watch. Cov deserved the win. Here's to being in the same league (level2) in the not too distant future. we need this fixture!
|
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2019 at 11:44
Certainly do. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2019 at 16:15
| Ealing 52 - Bishops Stortford 7. 56 mins. Ealing genuinely not running up the score as much as they could. |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2019 at 16:40
| 73-14 FT (which was cut a bit short in the heat). Ealing looked very sharp. |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2019 at 16:57
| Also, just discovered that Ealing did not get planning permission for their new stand last year and sre going through planning retrospectively. Oops. |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2019 at 17:02
|
Blackheath 23-36 Cov A few late changes to Cov's starting lineup (and an early injury to one of those that had been added) disrupted slightly, but decent result against a good side by all accounts. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Runitback
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2019 at 17:52
|
Blackheath strong pre season continues ------------- Run with it |
Posted By: Rabbie Burns
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2019 at 19:03
|
Pity about the injuries, 1 for each side, Cov 7 dislocated shoulder, Club lock suspected broken ankle. Good run out for both sides ------------- So many Christians not enough Lions |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2019 at 20:48
|
The Cov lad is one of the new Academy intake I reckon. Sadly that'll put him out for a while, but hopefully being young it will heal well. Hope the Blackheath lad isn't too bad. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2019 at 22:20
Really, I wouldn't be that happy in the result if I was a Blackheath supporter ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: Rabbie Burns
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2019 at 22:48
|
On 60 minutes we had a kick to put us in front against a full time pro side. Shortly after that we put on 2 young props, having lost both second rows one in the build up and one after 15 minutes. The back rower that moved to lock was then taken off injured so we had a hooker at 8 for the last 15 minutes with 2 flankers in the row so taken into context was a decent performance. We scored 4 really good tries and if we had converted those it would have been closer (kickers 1 from 5). So while no one likes to lose its pre season and about the systems and processes which for 75% of the game were very good against a good opposition. ------------- So many Christians not enough Lions |
Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2019 at 12:42
I would imagine that it was pre agreed that Ealing would not put out their first or second pick props. Bishop's Stortfords coach,Andy Long,ex England hooker would understand the potential danger in a mis match of props. Ealing started with ex Loughborough prop George Davis and Jake Ellwood who was loaned to Chinnor last season. ------------- Ambition should be made of sterner stuff. |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2019 at 13:51
Yeah, saw the props (except Els) in the stands with the other dozen or so guys not turning out. Seemed fine. |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2019 at 10:14
| Still curious...any way to watch the Reds game in Moscow? |
Posted By: Teddy1981
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2019 at 10:51
At the Jersey Reds Clubhouse or: [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR53Vftvf4I" rel="nofollow - www.youtube.com ]
|
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2019 at 16:51
|
Cambridge 0-35 Cov FT ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2019 at 18:47
| Ealing thumped Rosslyn Park 66-10. I couldnt go, but I ran into a team official in Ealing today and suggested that these preseason matches against Nat1 werent really stretching the boys. Got a frosty reception, but I dont think I am wrong. |
Posted By: Member728
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2019 at 19:30
|
Esher 0 Mond 36 Slow start from the Mond However some new and exciting players The future looks a lot better |
Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2019 at 19:36
I agree, we should have looked to play Welsh or French teams of a higher standard. ------------- Ambition should be made of sterner stuff. |
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2019 at 23:09
A decent Championship team should always look to put 50 points on a ND1 team. With the Premiership not providing pre-season games it has been tough for clubs. Normally one against ND1 for attack and one against a Premiership team for defence is how most clubs will do it. With the cup games first that is going to be effectively the pre-season games. Blues played last Friday night and then their next game is 3 weeks later against Cardiff Blues the Saturday before it starts at home to Ealing.
|
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2019 at 08:35
| Also, if anyone wants to see the Ealing game, Rosslyn Park's facebook page has the full match with commentary available on their facebook page. Surprised to discover that Wayne Barnes was in charge of the match. |
Posted By: Brizzer
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2019 at 08:37
| Really looking forward to the Jersey Reds fixture against Scarlets next Saturday. |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2019 at 10:26
agree Brizzer. Reds need to back up the performance in Moscow - interesting to see how close we can get to a PRO14 side, albeit with plenty of players missing on RWC duty (Reds also have 2 absentees who'll be en route to Japan). Also interesting to see how Russia get on when they host Connacht on the same day...
|
Posted By: Old Gold
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2019 at 11:32
We had J P Doyle for one of our pre season matches last year. I guess they need pre season as well. ------------- One Club |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2019 at 11:45
|
And as people pointed out, the premiership sides do not seem to be having a pre-season. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2019 at 12:01
|
Good pre-season match for Coventry albeit only winning 35-0 at Cambridge (5 tries not the seven quoted in the Cov match report ). I understand from knowledgeable supporters that this was almost a full starting XV for Cov so judging by comments above about the ND1/Champ differential, Coventry's full time squad must be somewhat disappointed at the result. However there was good slick handling in Cov's backline with James Stokes being the stand out player. Coventry's Oceania players looked useful (Junior?? was one). I'm sure the squad was rotated throughout the game to give everyone a chance for this audition. In the second half George Oram gained yards time and time again to keep Covnrety in or around the Cambridge 22. Cambridge certainly disrupted the Cov line-out and showed some good defence but Cov kept up the pace and looked the business in the tight. I was disappointed to see the Coventry coach has got CCS (Championship Coaching Syndrome) - challenging and shouting at the ref from the stands, standing up and gesticulating. As mentioned by Coventry supporters around me, the more you shout, the less the referee takes notice of you.  A good day out with a dry pitch, reasonable temperature (22C) and no noticeable breeze. Good to see the Coventry faithful making the journey - apologies for the A14!
------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2019 at 12:43
|
No noticeable breeze - you were at a different match to me. The wind was definitely building in the second half - not that it helped Cambridge. Good to meet up with some of the old boys. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2019 at 13:34
|
I think Mikalcius steadying the ball for a conversion by Maisey says enough about the negligable breeze TBH. I'd say it was close to a full strength squad, but with Purdy, Wallace, Forsyth and Halaifonua still to come in, it's probably debateable in some respects. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: OldNick
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2019 at 14:28
|
The core of the squad were very much last season’s core, with a few new players, key amongst them Rory Jennings at 10 at the start. I agree with the comments about George Oram, from when he came on he had a massive ball carrying game. Stoked and Knox looked good to me - although I’m having to get used to his tidy haircut. I’m not sure from where this idea of no wind came. It was a fair breeze from the start, getting stronger as the cloud came over. Maybe the stand was sheltered by the bar. |
Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2019 at 16:25
Where I was sat was sheltered by the clubhouse so there was virtually no breeze of which I was aware. I did wonder why the ball was held for the final conversion! Very enjoyable match with some knowledgeable supporters around. ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: Runitback
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2019 at 08:16
|
gerg . . if I were you I would be thankful of the games you have had, I was speaking to some Newcastle Falcons season ticket holders who were bemoaning the fact that Falcons are using the cup as their pre-season!!!! Ealing are looking in good shape early on, as RP are a strong strong side and I would expect them to be first or second this year in NAT 1. ------------- Run with it |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2019 at 12:26
I understand the point, but I'd note that there are other teams in the Championship who set up some really challenging pre-season fixtures, such as Scottish playing Edinburgh, or Jersey playing Russia. I hope that the obvious derision with which the Championship and Premiership Cups are being treated is enough to get them killed off after this year.
|
Posted By: billesleyexile
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2019 at 12:37
Not convinced actually - looking at the levels of signings going on and general cash flying around down here I think this could be the most competitive N1 season for a while. Top 2 spots I reckon could go to any of about half the league! I would agree with you that RP will be in the right 8 ------------- keep the faith |
Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2019 at 12:42
|
A big push in Nat 1 to fill extra slots in the Championship perhaps..... ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: Mark Smith
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2019 at 14:11
|
Newcastle Falcons had a full live session against the Italian national team today. Story: https://www.newcastlefalcons.co.uk/news/story/falcons-train-against-italian-national-team" rel="nofollow - https://www.newcastlefalcons.co.uk/news/story/falcons-train-against-italian-national-team Photo gallery: https://www.facebook.com/newcastle.falcons/photos/pcb.2788811664466284/2788810187799765/?type=3&theater" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/newcastle.falcons/photos/pcb.2788811664466284/2788810187799765/?type=3&theater
|
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2019 at 15:04
By that token, Ealing had a live session with England last week. |
Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2019 at 15:20
------------- Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD. |
Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2019 at 15:25
The day at Sandy Hill was by all accounts a full on Competition and the pace and tempo outstanding. I must say Ealing are looking particularly sharp. I would have still liked a match against a known superior team. ------------- Ambition should be made of sterner stuff. |
Posted By: The Perfect Ten
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2019 at 17:29
| I think Ealing need to use the three cup matches to be absolutely certain about their best XV for what is going to be a very difficult challenge down in Cornwall against The Pirates in the first game of their League campaign. |
Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2019 at 11:00
 ------------- Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD. |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2019 at 15:19
Indeed, I would say that Ealing is in danger of having too much of a good thing. There are lots of positions where it isn't obvious who is the best player. In particular, they weren't able to put out their best props or No.8s to avoid battering the Nat 1 teams. In addition, finding the best 9/10 partnerships could be difficult. Jordan Burns/Craig Willis looked deadly last year by the end of the season, but you don't bring in guys like Shingler and Fowles on the side line.
|
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2019 at 17:47
| Reds taught a bit of a lesson by Scarlets today. Visitors had 17 men absent due to the World Cup and another handful through injury but were still much too strong, scoring 7 tries & winning 17-49. Disappointing for the Reds but they should take a lot from it... |
Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2019 at 18:57
------------- Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD. |
Posted By: 2CP47
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2019 at 12:33
|
Scarlets were certainly more savvy & also very fast in more ways than one. A 16 man bench might have helped as well. I hope Kuki is not injured, I saw him on crutches later & hope that it was a precautionary measure. ------------- 2CP47 |
Posted By: Jerorky
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2019 at 12:56
|
The Scarlets outpaced Jersey in legs, hands and support play but I'm happy with the 3 tries we scored and dominance in some areas as CC described. In summary I think there are things that were pleasing and some things to aspire to. |
Posted By: Brizzer
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2019 at 16:44
|
Agree with everything said so far. I thought that the Scarlets line speed in defence was quite astounding, played on the right side of offside, but only just and came up as one at great pace. Was a pleasure to watch....just a shame that it was against The Reds. I hope that the Scarlets player is ok. He was out cold for 3 or 4 minutes and it looked a nasty one. Fingers crossed that there is no lasting concussion. |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2019 at 18:52
| the injured Scarlets player was ok, he was back at the team hotel last night... |
Posted By: Warman1
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2019 at 19:31
|
Reds v Scarlets highlights: https://youtu.be/r0HxWGQ-eiY" rel="nofollow - linky Scarlets the better in attack. Reds better at the scrum and lineout. Some great jackalling by Scarlets too. Can't complain at the result, they were a step above the Reds. |
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2019 at 20:46
That Scarlets winger Conbeer at 5:16 looks electric!
|
Posted By: Warman1
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2019 at 23:08
Yeah, almost impossible to tackle. |
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2019 at 13:27
|
Battle of the Blues and Cardiff have named a side with Pro 14 experience minus the 6 with Wales Replacements: Robbie Smith, Joe Wrafter, Henry Paul, Ed Taylor, Joe Atkinson, Dan Temm, James Lennon, Joe Green. Cardiff Blues: M Morgan; J Harries, G Smith, W Halaholo, I Davies; J Tovey, L Jones; B Thyer, K Myhill, D Arhip, S Davies, R Thornton, S Lewis-Hughes, W Boyde, N Williams Replacements: K Dacey, R Gill, S Andrews, B Murphy, O Robinson, J Hill, B Thomas, A Summerhill, J Turnbull, A Lawrence |
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2019 at 16:49
|
Blues 0 - 29 Cardiff A dull game so far. Blues going down the slope in 2nd half. Referee hasn’t helped the game, not sure what the point of yellow carding us for a scrum offence in a pre-season friendly, just giving them the penalty try, amongst some other dodgy decisions. Blues have gifted 2 tries in first few mins and then after a promising attack at the end of the half, which hasn’t helped. Blues struggling without any centres and now the starting winger playing fly half. |
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2019 at 16:57
| ATT 1455 |
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2019 at 17:05
|
0-34 Brand new front row for the Blues and Cardiff after half time, 2nd scrum Blues ball and he gives a free kick against us... try! |
Posted By: Dan Gleebles
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2019 at 17:29
| Sounds dire, glad I stuck with the cricket. |
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2019 at 17:40
|
Ends Blues 14 - 39 Cardiff Win 2nd half 14-10 |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2019 at 20:33
Sounds like the real Blues took their better players off - what happens in pre-season friendlies. Still, I would have expected a comfortable win for Cardiff. ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2019 at 20:52
We actually brought some better players on! Temm, Atkinson and a few of the new boys impressed in the 2nd half - Wrafter from Moseley. The slope makes a difference and plus when you do not gift 12 points in the first few mins. It's not much of a drop in standard when you are bringing on players like Olly Robinson, Gill (former Saracens), Dacey (played 8 times for Wales). Biggest concern is that all 4 centres are currently out injured.
|
Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 07:20
Got to agree, that is a worry, are they minor / major injuries? Will they be better by the start of the league games..... ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 13:18
I think league games they will be back (or at least 2), so it will be a case of getting through the cup. The only fit one was taken off with help in the 1st half. |
Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 14:08
Well at least there is some light at the end of that tunnel - I hate to see injuries to players (although inevitable). ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |