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Topic: Leeds
Posted By: Camquin
Subject: Leeds
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2020 at 15:41
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Phil Davies talks to RugbyPass http://www.rugbypass.com/news/phil-davies-outlines-a-daunting-1980s-type-rebuild-at-leeds/" rel="nofollow - http://www.rugbypass.com/news/phil-davies-outlines-a-daunting-1980s-type-rebuild-at-leeds/ ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2020 at 15:46
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What worries me is that although Leeds Beckett finished higher up BUCS Super Rugby than Loughborough - that is effectively Loughborough's second team. There is a rumour on the tykes forum that they might play at Leeds Beckett ground. It does not fill me with enthusiasm. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: isleonian
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2020 at 17:19
| Could well be N2N for 21/22? |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2020 at 18:09
You might get a better (and cheaper) pint there than at Headingley ------------- RAID ON |
Camquin wrote:Posted By: Rabbie Burns
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2020 at 19:55
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I thought that the decision was already made that they are leaving Headingley. Unglamorous saroundings indeed. There are a lot of decent grounds in Nat 1 with excellent playing surfaces and Mr Davies may get a shock at both the facilities and the standard of the league ------------- So many Christians not enough Lions |
Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 09:26
| Not surprising given the club from the lesser code always treated Carnegie with disdain. |
Posted By: Fly Half
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 09:40
Risable,the Rhinos have subsidised Carnegie for the past 10 yrs in terms of training facilities,administration and use of Headingley.Rhinos also wrote off a six figure sum when Carnegie went bust.
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 09:43
Quite. Even more risible to still be using terms like 'lesser code'. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Pappashanga
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 09:53
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They should have been thinking like this a year ago. I think Mr Davies is going to find it very tough in N1. Any thought of 'bouncing back' is unrealistic.
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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 10:08
As the 'lesser code' club (your words not mine) are far more successful and YC were mere tenants who ruined the pitch quality each winter can you blame them. This 'lesser code' attitude is typical of the RFU elite. - Rugby League is a different sport - the split happened a 100 years ago - get over it. Incidentally, I would say League is one of the biggest factors for there being a paucity of Northern clubs in the top 3 levels - as it is basically a Northern game that doesn't really exist in this country outside of Lancashire and Yorkshire. ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: dropout22
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 10:17
It's true that the BUCS team is essentially the club's second xv, but the RFU side isn't made up of students really, maybe a few 21 year olds but there are many loan players in there from Wasps & Leicester. |
Posted By: Wit Ball
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 12:53
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Hopefully the start of the new world will be a name change back to Leeds ------------- Never happened in my day |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 14:00
Agreed. Except that Warrington, Newcastle, Barrow, Workington, Crusaders, London Skolars, London Broncos, Coventry, Raiders, Whitehaven (and Toulouse, Catalans, and Toronto) may well disagree with your closing statement (and that's just at the top three levels of the game). ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Albert Fishwick
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 14:20
That much seems very likely. Everything else, including whether we stay at Headingley, is as clear as clarts at the moment. ------------- That's easy for you to say. |
Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 14:53
There is very little in sport lesser than Yorkshire Carnegie.
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Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 15:37
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Come on Kimbo Barrow and Warrington are traditional Lancashire towns. ;-) ------------- Moderator http://www.leaguerugby.co.uk" rel="nofollow - National League Rugby Message Boards Remember Wakefield RFC |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 16:33
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We tried telling the Lancashire clubs that when they comlained about having to travel :-) I think he may have confused Workington (Cumberland) with Warrington (Cheshire). I am not sure either were ever in Lanashire.
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Posted By: billesleyexile
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 16:44
Nicely played there on ducking where Raiders play now/this week! Seriously I don't know off the top of my head and I'm a Rugby League World subscriber! I do know that they *have* played in Merthyr, Mountain Ash, Caerphilly, Maesteg, Neath and Blackwood RFC while on their travels...
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Posted By: SKalpy
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 16:52
| Lancashire county boundaries can be found here. http://www.forl.co.uk/" rel="nofollow - http://www.forl.co.uk/ |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 17:34
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I stand corrected on Warrington. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: JonDee
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 17:45
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Interesting article just been posted re Leeds RL https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/52311952" rel="nofollow - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/52311952 |
Posted By: Jasper99
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 18:34
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Not sure |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 18:47
Traditional dinnae cut it when the council tax bill drops on the mat. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 18:49
Ducking nowt pal. None of those locations are in Yorks or Lancs. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 19:12
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Oh yes, I forgot that Widnes is also in Cheshire, so that's another.
(Yeah yeah. I know. Both it and Warrington were once part of Lancs...) ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 19:38
I did say in this country - Crusaders are in Wales whilst the 3 in brackets are in France & Canada - non of the others are playing at the top level ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 23:54
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That's why I put them in brackets, and you did say at the top three levels.
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Posted By: Loo fighters
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2020 at 08:53
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A friend from a several generation Wigan entrenched family gave up his 8 season tickets some five yrs ago. He told me about 18mths ago that he could see some SL teams going semi pro in the near future. He's involved at the top end of the biggest amateur RL club in Wigan and has mentioned the lack of players, unheard of ever in the games heartland. The Wigan v Saints derby has always been the barometer on this side of the Pennines which hasn't sold out in yrs, this year was less than 2/3 full. Change is required across both codes to keep things ticking, union needs a rethink below the Prem for the greater good. ------------- Family-Rugger-Beer... |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2020 at 09:29
What I actually said was League was a reason for the paucity of Northern Clubs in the top 3 levels (rather than levels 2 & 3 as stated further up the thread) I'm not sure how you read this as the top 3 levels of league when the discussion is about Union. It is obvious this refers to the top 3 levels of Union ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2020 at 09:33
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And my initial reply was to the bit that stated "basically a Northern game that doesn't really exist in this country outside of Lancashire and Yorkshire". Anyway, pointless. I'm out. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 24 May 2020 at 15:04
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"News" from Leeds http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/other-sport/enthusiastic-phil-davies-remains-determined-rebuild-fallen-yorkshire-carnegie-2861388" rel="nofollow - https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/other-sport/enthusiastic-phil-davies-remains-determined-rebuild-fallen-yorkshire-carnegie-2861388 ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: marigold
Date Posted: 24 May 2020 at 15:18
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Saw in a recent webinar Phil Davies was suggesting the core of his squad could be students from Leeds Beckett. As Loughborough discovered National One is too tough for a predominantly students side. |
Posted By: SCC79
Date Posted: 24 May 2020 at 16:16
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'As Loughborough discovered National One is too tough for a predominantly students side'. True once BUCS Super Rugby started a couple of years or so ago because the level of the mid week game rose exponentially from the regular BUCS fixtures but Luff students actually survived for a number of years in Nat 1 before then. |
Posted By: semisonic
Date Posted: 26 May 2020 at 21:33
| I would say that they'd be potentially up a certain creek if there are no students at Leeds Beckett in September, although I suppose in that scenario the season probably wouldn't be able to start either. |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 27 May 2020 at 09:22
Spot on - with many universities only providing virtual lectures over the Internet the students won't be there. ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: 'Hopper
Date Posted: 27 May 2020 at 09:56
Will this also affect Loughborough Students? ------------- What if the Hokey Kokey really IS what it's all about? |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 27 May 2020 at 11:21
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I think if rugby restarts, Loughborough will find a way to bring the team to campus, even if not all other students do. But even though lectures are going on line, a lot of small group and lab work will still need to be face to face - so many students will need to return to campus. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2020 at 13:45
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https://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/latest-news/37504/exclusive-yorkshire-carnegie-disband-academy-as-rfu-pull-funding-support/%20" rel="nofollow - https://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/latest-news/37504/exclusive-yorkshire-carnegie-disband-academy-as-rfu-pull-funding-support/
------------- Moderator http://www.leaguerugby.co.uk" rel="nofollow - National League Rugby Message Boards Remember Wakefield RFC |
Posted By: Rabbie Burns
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2020 at 17:48
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That’s a real shame for the staff and players but probably inevitable given the current climate ------------- So many Christians not enough Lions |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2020 at 19:20
Not st all surprised - I think they should have moved it to Doncaster when Leeds failed to fund it. The bigger question is what happens to Leeds? ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2020 at 09:48
Slippery slope like Liverpool St Helens I can see unless they do a Richmond/London Scottish and drop out and re-enter at the bottom.
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Posted By: Albert Fishwick
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2020 at 11:11
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Still no news (in fact a deafening silence) but there have been some board changes logged with Companies House lately which suggest that the links with the Rhinos might be being reduced. Whether that means a change of venue after all remains to be seen. ------------- That's easy for you to say. |
Posted By: semisonic
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2020 at 17:12
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Based on the fixture list, appears they have reverted to the Leeds Tykes name. https://www.englandrugby.com/dxdam/1e/1e3dd581-3dcb-4e61-9389-f5c07667c51a/NCA%20Fixtures%202020-2021.pdf" rel="nofollow - https://www.englandrugby.com/dxdam/1e/1e3dd581-3dcb-4e61-9389-f5c07667c51a/NCA%20Fixtures%202020-2021.pdf
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Posted By: JonDee
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2020 at 17:15
| and as they have the first 2 weeks away gives them more time to sort out where they are playing fixtures |
Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2020 at 19:22
You know the Rhinos are probably just waiting for the excuse to allow their grass to grow in winter unmolested....
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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2020 at 20:05
Not surprising, Rhinos by far the bigger club - wouldn't be getting enough money from the lesser team to make it worth while. ------------- RAID ON |