Player Pathway
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Topic: Player Pathway
Posted By: jimbojetset
Subject: Player Pathway
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 12:35
Just as an interesting point for National League rugby progression. This evening Sale Sharks play Wasps and eight of the players taking the pitch for Sale Sharks have played National 1 and National 2 North with Sale FC over the years. Many of them played their first ever senior game of rugby in National League rugby. Players like Arron Reed (man of the match first game against Leicester Lions but too young to be given the champagne by the match day sponsor). Ben Curry played as an 18 year old in Nat 2 North and so on. Interestingly Paolo Odogwu played for Wasps on the weekend also played 24 games for Sale FC.
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Posted By: Rabbie Burns
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 13:32
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It’s not a new subject, you will find most premiership players started senior rugby in the national leagues. 2 others that are currently earning rave reviews Tom O’Flaherty played his first senior games for Blackheath although that seems to have been missed and Will Stewart of Bath previously Wasps played for both Blackheath and Moseley, Mario Otje was at Old Albanians. That is why I get very annoyed when the higher echelons treat us like rubbish as without the National leagues (and championship) their youngsters wouldn’t have played serious rugby ------------- So many Christians not enough Lions |
Posted By: jimbojetset
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 15:09
Totally agree. I realise that most premiership players have done the same(ish) route/pathway. I'd be interested to see if any premiership teams have 8 players who played for the same National League team? There must be some?
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Rabbie Burns wrote:Posted By: Count Ford
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 16:01
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Re: Jimbojetset I saw Arron Reed a couple of times playing for Sale FC and he definitely looked like he had potential for big things. I also thought the same about Jonty Rawcliffe...is he still with you?
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Posted By: jimbojetset
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 16:54
Arron was one of those players who could turn a game. Against Hinckley, he read a superb pass and intercepted to go under the posts to essentially win the game and push us toward promotion. Jonty has moved back down south with work and has signed for Cambridge.
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Posted By: Camp Freddie
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 17:27
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And the other half of the Sale team played their youth rugby in South Africa......
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 17:36
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I thought eight players who had pulled on a Cambridge shirt in the Saracens v Saints match was doing well. 3 for Saracens and five for Saints. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Basher2
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 20:12
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Keep your eyes on Wharfedale, a lot of young talent coming through from Last year’s National colts winning side and now Leeds Tykes are on there way down hopefully staying at the Avenue is not a bad thing. Saying that there’s a few that could potentially be on bigger clubs radar in the next few years. https://youtu.be/QHjEt0F7-Qs" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/QHjEt0F7-Qs 4 hours in is National cup final definitely worth a watch
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Posted By: MikeGC
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2020 at 09:30
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I'm sure those lads all started somewhere. Luke and Sam James came through the mini/junior set-up at (level 6) Manchester. Granted Manchester have suffered a decline but credit where credit is due, they were well up the leagues when their father played stand-off there. Interestingly (well it is to me) their grandfather was a pretty good stand-off too, albeit in the "goode olde" day with Burnage. |
Posted By: jimbojetset
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2020 at 10:45
Absolutely! Manchester have an excellent Minis and Juniors section as do most clubs in the Greater Manchester Area and the north west. It was also pointed out on Facebook that there were five hookers playing who'd put on the Macclesfield shirt at some point in time. I think the point I was trying to make was that Premiership players rarely move straight from school, uni, M&J's straight into the premiership. At some point, most of them will have played club rugby. I think its one of the things that makes rugby so special. Every premiership game, every international, grassroot/league clubs can demonstrate their contribution. |
Posted By: Rabbie Burns
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2020 at 12:28
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Not one of them started their rugby at a Premiership club, they all started at their local club ------------- So many Christians not enough Lions |
Posted By: Penda
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2020 at 17:54
Interesting. How many games has Ashman played for Sale FC?
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2020 at 19:24
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According to Statbunker 2. Against Hull Ionians and Rams. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2020 at 21:21
| Billy Twelvetrees was at Leicester Lions before going to Leicester Tigers. |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2020 at 09:23
I think my wife gets a bit fed up with me naming players who have played for Worthing when we watch a premiership game  ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2020 at 09:28
| It’s easier some times when watching Harlequins to list the players who have NOT played for Esher! |
Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2020 at 10:38
| Raider999 - maybe your wife is just fed up with you full stop!? 😂😂 |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2020 at 13:23
You could be right  ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: jimbojetset
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 07:39
He played a couple, then was selected for Scotland U20's for the six nations. Same happens to a few of the players coming through National 1 teams. In the previous season he was at Fylde for a while as well.
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Posted By: workerbee
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 10:58
| Perhaps there may be some connection between Sale FC and Sale Sharks more than other clubs. |
Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 14:38
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How about this team of Harlequins players who played for Esher under the enlightened rulke of Conor O'Shea and Dean Richards? The number of games played is quite enlightening, as is the fact that many played for 2 or 3 seasons - admittedly when we were at Level 2 or top of Level 3. Sadly only 2of this list played at Esher as Juniors, as far as I know. 15 Ross Chisholm 24 2009-12 14 Charlie Walker 36 2011-13 13 George Lowe 22 2008-09 12 Charlie Amesbury 26 2008-09 11 Seb Stegmann 22 2008-09 10 James Lang 6 2016-17 9 Calum Waters 37 2015-17 8 Chris Yorke 37 2015-17 7 Luke Wallace 15 2010-12 6 Archie White 11 2016-17 5 George Robson 13 2007-08 4 Stan South 16 2015-16 3 Kyle Sinckler 9 2012-13 2 Rob Buchanan 5 2011-12 1 Joe Marler 12 2009-10 |
Posted By: royal
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 16:15
Astonished someone from Wirral could even come to such a conclusion
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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 16:58
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Dino Lamb? Who also played for Worthing along with 4 of your team plus other Premiership players James Chisholm (Quins) Joe Marchant (Quins) Josh ibuanokpe (now Saracens) Harry Sloan (now Saracens) Joe Launchbury (Wasps) Richard Palframan (Worcester) ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: Welshie7
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 18:27
| Raider, who are the 4 "Esher XV" players out of interest? |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 19:50
Archie White, Joe Marler, Stan South and Calum Waters ------------- RAID ON |