Season tickets
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Topic: Season tickets
Posted By: The Blues
Subject: Season tickets
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2021 at 22:20
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I have bought my Blues online season ticket. May even get to watch them when we can go into the ground! https://bedfordrugby.co.uk/news/2021/03/live-streaming-season-tickets" rel="nofollow - https://bedfordrugby.co.uk/news/2021/03/live-streaming-season-tickets Thought this was interesting By purchasing this membership, you are guaranteeing Bedford Blues receive income from live streaming in advance and direct from our supporters, rather than a new centralised, shared funding pot that has yet to be decided.
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Posted By: Stalwart
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2021 at 22:37
| Pirates have done the same. |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2021 at 22:58
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Renewed my ST when they first went on sale (not long after the end of last season).
It automatically includes all streamed home matches. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 12:30
Same for Ealing
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Kimbo wrote:Posted By: stadium
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 15:37
| Watch Live Streaming Pirates V Saracens this weekend. Saracens may be in for a shock down in Penzance. |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 15:45
Why, have you moved to Truro? ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: dropout22
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 15:46
| How do we access the livestream? |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 19:45
Second that, would be good to watch if possible on a one-off basis. ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: Stalwart
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 20:19
Go to the Pirates website, on the front page is a box that says Pirates v Saracens, and there's a thingy to click on that says "buy tickets".
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Posted By: dropout22
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 20:44
| Cheers. |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2021 at 11:27
Thanks ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2021 at 12:51
And now we learn that the RFU have cr@pped all over this arrangement. Could they be any more divisive? https://www.coventryrugby.co.uk/2021/03/03/live-streaming-update-and-season-ticket-refunds/" rel="nofollow - https://www.coventryrugby.co.uk/2021/03/03/live-streaming-update-and-season-ticket-refunds/ ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2021 at 14:17
This couldn't be more outrageous. The RFU cuts funding, can't get the Championship any grants, and then takes away the clubs' abilities to make money. What a bunch of onanists.
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2021 at 14:34
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So eloquently described Gerg Why do we put up with this bunch of buffoons - a vote of no confidence needs to be called for. ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: Cov kid 42
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2021 at 15:10
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Does anyone have any doubts whatsoever that the RFU could not care a monkeys...…… when it comes to the Championship. Three days before we finally get underway & '' big brother'' muscles in over streaming. How many more examples do we want of them not caring about anything below the Premiership ------------- John Butler |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2021 at 15:22
I don't think we need ANY further examples. They've made it perfectly clear time and again John. What makes it worse is the lack of clarity over what kind of cut they intend to give the clubs. It's almost as if they don't care... I can't afford it, but I for one intend to not request a refund and therefore to donate my ST money to the club as a gesture. I hope it's not an empty gesture. I really don't want to cut my own nose off, but I'm really not feeling like subscribing to the streaming service any further - unless it's fair deal for the clubs, and I somehow doubt that given the Twickenham garbage's track record thus far. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2021 at 15:25
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#voteofnoconfidence The RFU have become the lackeys of PRL  ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2021 at 15:47
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Considerably reduce funding (announced even before Covid) Failure to negotiate a TV deal that benefits the Championship teams (pocketing the money themselves) Preventing efforts of teams to raise funds through streaming (without announcing a new TV deal) Think the Championship teams would be well advised to breakaway from RFU, as the Premiership have done, and negotiate their own deal(s) to their benefit. ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2021 at 17:12
Bring it on. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Stalwart
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2021 at 18:04
| As soon as you think the RFU can't get any worse they manage to do it. Absolutely outrageous. Agree with those who have said it's time to break away. |
Posted By: Woody
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2021 at 18:31
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I won’t be buying streamed matches if the proceeds are going to the RFU instead of the club. Boycott the farce. ------------- Forever Green. |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2021 at 19:35
They will be wanting people to send them the difference between the bottles of beer they drink whilst watching and HQ prices next  ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: Bigbluepip
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2021 at 23:19
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Can I just clarify this, if I buy the £50 ticket for Bedford’s games it all goes to the RFU rather than my club? Or does this only apply to the arrangement Coventry have because of the deal they gave those who had already bought their ticket? ------------- I want you all to line up in a circle and pair up in three's alphabetically by height. |
Posted By: Monkey Magic
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2021 at 00:02
I may be wrong but I understand all the the profits from the streaming will be divided up between the 11 participating clubs- Cov will prob have to adjust their figures to allow for the deal they were already committed to.
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2021 at 07:26
Might be good to clarify the facts before calling for a boycott Woody. There's been quite a bit of wrangling and I sense some clubs are happier than others, and don't know the exact split of what's received via subscribers, but all clubs stand to benefit. If the whole thing goes well then it potentially leaves the Championship well-placed to secure a better, long-term deal beyond this June
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2021 at 07:28
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And you are saying the RFU is not going to skim the cream off of the top? ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2021 at 09:17
No, I'm not saying that. I don't think it's realistic for a supporter to pay £10 for a game and every penny of that sum to end up in the coffers of the club they support. There are costs. Hopefully a more precise split of the income may become available. But I rest my case that all clubs are set to receive a share of what comes in, and declining to subscribe as a result of being angry about the RFU would be a 'cut off nose to spite face' type of gesture...
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Posted By: Taffy
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2021 at 11:02
According to the Blues official page http://bedfordrugby.co.uk/news/2021/03/live-streaming-season-tickets" rel="nofollow - http://bedfordrugby.co.uk/news/2021/03/live-streaming-season-tickets
By purchasing this membership, you are guaranteeing Bedford Blues receive income from live streaming in advance and direct from our supporters, rather than a new centralised, shared funding pot that has yet to be decided. |
Posted By: Rob C
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2021 at 11:20
I'm not sure how Bedford are still able to offer this. The information given by Coventry is that all streaming is now run 'in house' by the RFU and must be accessed through the Championship Rugby website...
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2021 at 11:20
But... The clubs were guaranteed a certain figure from the original 247 deal, after costs. You can't tell me that adding a layer of bureaucracy to this is going to result in clubs retaining anything like the percentage they had already negotiated. This is the RFU wanting somebody else's cake, and eating it. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2021 at 14:17
| Just been tweeted by Donny that Knights season ticket holders can watch our home games as part of their package |
Posted By: Pappashanga
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2021 at 15:25
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Richmond just emailed to say season ticket holders get home streaming free. Away is £10. They say RFU are not getting any of the money. ------------- pappashanga |
Posted By: Pappashanga
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2021 at 15:26
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'PRICING: The stream ticket price is just £10 on a pay-per-view basis. This is the fixed price for home and away fixtures and has been agreed by the 11 participating clubs. The broadcast will be produced by 247.tv with all streaming revenue from the 2020/21 season shared between the Championship clubs. The RFU will not receive revenue from the stream.' ------------- pappashanga |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2021 at 15:43
Good to get some information. I think that there will be some winners and losers on this, with lesser supported clubs benefiting and better supported clubs coming out worse off. On the other hand, I can say that I'll be spending a tenner on watching Ealing play Nottingham, and probably on Pirates playing Sarries which I wouldn't have put out if I game could be viewed in-person.
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2021 at 19:47
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What would make more sense is if when you signed up to a game you nominated the club you wished to donate your fee to. E.g. a Blues supporter watching Pirates v Saracens, you could pick the team they wish to donate to. If it is shared equally (doesn’t say that) it could penalise Blues and Coventry most (guess Saracens too). When they have a crowd average double or close to some of the others. You would hope they would use some kind of level of support scale, although you would never satisfy all.
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Posted By: Pappashanga
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2021 at 20:05
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All clubs are equally affected by lockdown. Apart from the practical difficulties I can't really see much merit in unequal allocation in these dire circumstances. ------------- pappashanga |
Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2021 at 20:24
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I stand corrected- some fair points raised - guess my faith in the RFU has taken a battering these last few years - hence my rush of blood. ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2021 at 23:49
Can’t see how they are all affected the same - ok it wasn’t a full season last year but Blues averaged 2,782 according to statbunker, Coventry were 2,455, Pirates 1,815, Jersey 1,241 and 5 clubs were below 1,000 The top 2 Championship clubs (ignoring Newcastle) averaged double than the 4th highest pretty much (if correct). Say on average 20% stream (hopefully higher), Blues or Coventry fans would generate roughly £5,000 revenue and a club towards the bottom end of the league average crowd brings £1,600. Not sure why clubs without a wealthy backer who would usually survive off crowds should subsidise others who usually do not bring fans in. I don’t see wealthy backers of lower supported clubs giving money the other way. I would feel this if Blues were at the bottom of the attendance tables. It would be very easy to do you buy the ticket on the side of the match you want to support that club, or have a drop down box or something.
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Posted By: Pappashanga
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2021 at 09:31
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The Blues - are the Bedford season ticket holders going to get the home stream for free, like the Richmond ones? In these cases the homr clubs have already had the money. Away fans are paying for the stream. I presume they will, in the case of Bedford, be fans of the visitors and only a small proportion of the 2,782 spectators. What proportion of that number are season ticket holders? ------------- pappashanga |
Posted By: stadium
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2021 at 09:45
| How did the RFU manage to create a complete "Dogs Breakfast" in such a short time. |
Posted By: Pappashanga
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2021 at 10:22
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To be fair, the government has managed to do it, so what hope have the RFU? ------------- pappashanga |
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2021 at 11:49
Blues fans are paying £10 a match or you can pay £50 for the 5 (the season ticket) with benefits like being able to hopefully attend the last match in the season, as well as get supporter conferences, electronic match day programmes, etc. If this money goes into a central pot to then be re-distributed, better supported clubs could (depends on the basis) get less than what they would have got if it all went to the home club, which would normally happen. With no travel/time barrier, every game is effectively a home game literally! I will potentially go from going to maybe 3 or 4 away games in a normal season to potentially all away games this season. You would think more people would be inclined to watch away games as it is easier but time will tell. In some ways COVID could create a new normal for the future and hopefully the streaming can stay, as it helps to watch some games you can't make with the travel but could watch from home. I know I would pay the usual ground entry price to watch online.
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Posted By: OLDALIKADOO10
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2021 at 12:48
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I’ve purchased the Pirates v Saracens game and tried To purchase the Hartpury v Richmond game but ticketing system Won’t let me buy. I’ve raised a call with Ticketco. Anyone else having issues buying multiple games?
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Posted By: Taffy
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2021 at 14:37
It comes easily to them after years of practice ! |
Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2021 at 19:44
------------- Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD. |
Posted By: Pappashanga
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2021 at 20:18
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Corporal, it let me buy both. ------------- pappashanga |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2021 at 10:47
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Well, following advice from several individuals that my pennies won't go to lining the pockets of the avaricious and ineffectual governing body of the sport, I decided to spring for a ticket for today's game.
It still feels dirty. I'll console myself, though, with the thought that I've not been knowingly lied to by people whose integrity I take for granted. I just hope they've not been hoodwinked. The club's offer to refund me the already-paid-for 20/21 Season Ticket will still be declined, and I hope many people might be in a position to do similar (at all Champ clubs), but, given the situation, I doubt it. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2021 at 13:21
I couldn't buy anything until I opted in to ALL of the marketing tick boxes. :( After that, my two purchases went through. I'd love to find out how many tickets get sold for these.
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