2020/21 Championship - Final Round Predictions
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Topic: 2020/21 Championship - Final Round Predictions
Posted By: Donnyknightfan
Subject: 2020/21 Championship - Final Round Predictions
Date Posted: 25 May 2021 at 19:45
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Saturday 29th May: Bedford v Ampthill - 2pm Richmond v Coventry - 2pm Saracens v Hartpury - 2pm Jersey v Cornish Pirates - 3pm Doncaster v Nottingham - 4.30pm ------------- Donny Knights - best team in Yorkshire |
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Posted By: Donnyknightfan
Date Posted: 25 May 2021 at 20:04
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Predictions: Bedford 5 - 0 Ampthill - Will be a great game but in front of fans at GR I think Bedford will finally produce an 80 minute performance and comfortably beat their local rivals. Richmond 1 - 5 Coventry - Even though Cov got a drubbing against Sarries they should still have enough quality to defeat Mond who have faded a bit in recent weeks. Saracens 5 - 0 Hartpury - This is just the fixture you would want when you have shipped 50 points at home... I don’t envy Hartpury this weekend, at all. This could be painful. Jersey 1 - 5 Cornish Pirates - Jersey have really struggled against the top 4/5 teams this season and I expect that to continue this weekend, Pirates have regained some momentum in the last couple of weeks. Reds will play better than they did against Coventry but don’t think it will be enough. Doncaster 5 - 0 Nottingham - I’M GOING TO THIS ONE!!!. I expect Donny to finish a great season on a high note. We need the BP win to guarantee third and I think we’ll get it. Nottingham will compete well but I think will be overpowered at the end. Donny by 6 tries to 3. 45-24 prediction.
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Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 25 May 2021 at 20:28
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Bedford 3-3 Ampthill. I have absolutely no idea how this one will go. All competitive games in the last 2 seasons have seen Ampthill triumph, but Bedford’s game will click eventually. So I will sit on the fence and predict a high scoring draw. Richmond 0-5 Coventry. Richmond were a very ordinary side against Ampthill. An on the rebound Coventry will gradually ramp up a bonus point win. Saracens 5-0 Hartpury. Good luck, Hartpury. The only plus I can see for the away side is if Saracens rack up a quick 50 points and then replace all their internationals. Jersey 0-4 Cornish Pirates. Two solid sides but Pirates have enjoyed the better season. Doncaster 4-1 Nottingham. Nottingham have improved all season but Doncaster have remained consistent and should deservedly secure 3rd spot. |
Posted By: B Cap
Date Posted: 26 May 2021 at 09:28
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Bedford 2 v Ampthill 5 Amps roll on against under-achieving neighbours Richmond 0 v Coventry 5 Cov to bounce back after last week's drubbing Saracens 5 v Hartpury 0 Pury will do well to keep it under 80 Jersey 2 v Cornish Pirates 5 Pirates to nick this in the sun 24- 28 Doncaster 5 v Nottingham 0 Donny to round off great season in style
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Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 26 May 2021 at 10:03
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Bedford 2-5 Ampthill. Should
be a real cracker but Amps to win by 6 tries to 5 ------------- Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD. |
Posted By: Old Gold
Date Posted: 26 May 2021 at 14:59
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Bedford 5 - 2 Ampthill Richmond 0 - 5 Coventry Saracens 5 - 0 Hartpury Jersey 5 - 2 Cornish Pirates Doncaster 5 - 1 Nottingham ------------- One Club |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 26 May 2021 at 15:34
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Bedford 2-5 Ampthill - I hope that Bedford is allowed a decent number of spectators to watch what is sure to be an exciting match. I think it will go very loose by the second half, and will be a beautiful spectacle. Richmond 0-5 Coventry. Cov have the perfect fixture to bounce back on. Richmond have been rotating a lot to give their second 15 game time this season as a community club should, but it hasn't led to the best outcomes week on week. Saracens 5-0 Hartpury - Sarries likely to rest players to match Ealing. I still think that they get 9 tries to Hartpury's 1. Hartpury's defense was woeful vs. Ealing earlier in the year. Jersey 3-3 Pirates - In honor of CC, I'm going to pick a 3-3 draw for the last match of the season in Jersey. I'll actually be in Cornwall, so sad it isn't in Penzance from that point of view. Doncaster 5-1 Nottingham - Nottingham have really gelled in the last few weeks, but Donny have built a very tough side and will put on a display for the faithful. |
Posted By: dunc999
Date Posted: 27 May 2021 at 08:37
I think the last thing it will be is loose - at least if Ampthill have any sense. All they need to do is watch the Notts match - keep it tight, plenty of scrum and kick to the corners and let Blues' inability to cope with the mauls and scrum do the rest.
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gerg_861 wrote:Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 27 May 2021 at 10:47
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I thought Ampthills definition of loose was to let the inside centre run the crash ball instead of the back row forward. (-: I always remember those matches as being fierce physical encounters. with the backs there to take advantage of the holes the battering opened up. On the other hand, we won some of them. But if we want to rekindle that rivalry, we will need to be promoted. I do not see them coming down for a while ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 27 May 2021 at 22:10
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Bedford 2 Ampthill 5
Richmond 0 Coventry 5. Saracens 5 Hartpury 0 Jersey 1 Cornish Pirates 4 Doncaster 5 Nottingham 0
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 27 May 2021 at 22:28
| Blues is a “sell out” at 1,500. |
Posted By: kingsheathlad
Date Posted: 28 May 2021 at 07:01
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Bedford 1 Ampthill 4.
Richmond 0 Coventry 5. Sarecens 5 Hartpury 0. Jersey 1 Cornish Pirates 5. Doncaster 5 Nottingham 0. ------------- Cauliflower ear. |
Posted By: Stalwart
Date Posted: 28 May 2021 at 08:37
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Bedford 4 Ampthill 1. Richmond 0 Coventry 5. Sarecens 5 Hartpury 0. Jersey 1 Cornish Pirates 4. Doncaster 5 Nottingham 0
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Posted By: Bedfordian
Date Posted: 28 May 2021 at 10:30
| Ampthill play loose, ha ha ha ha |
Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 28 May 2021 at 11:23
| Apparently Saracens v Hartpury is off due to a Covid outbreak at Hartpury |
Posted By: Donnyknightfan
Date Posted: 28 May 2021 at 12:07
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https://www.saracens.com/match-postponed-saracens-men-v-hartpury-university-rfc/" rel="nofollow - https://www.saracens.com/match-postponed-saracens-men-v-hartpury-university-rfc/ . I imagine that Sarries will get awarded the win there and they won’t have to replay the game. At least it doesn’t impact the table so much. ------------- Donny Knights - best team in Yorkshire |
Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 28 May 2021 at 13:04
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Jersey v Pirates program ------------- Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD. |
Posted By: Pappashanga
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 08:19
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Bedford 2 Ampthill 2.
Richmond 0 Coventry 5. But you never know. Twice Coventry have come down to the RAG and been surprised. So would I be currently. Saracens v Hartpury .Off Jersey 4 Cornish Pirates 1. Jersey tricky at home. Doncaster 2 Nottingham 2 Nottingham quite impressive now.
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Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 13:00
| Wow, Pappshanga, that's brave. Two draws in 4 games. |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 13:15
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Few transport issues today: Cov Twitter reported them stuck in traffic en route to Richmond at 1.10pm; Pirates' plane was due to land in Jersey at 12.20 but just arrived 3/4 of an hour late...
Update: Richmond Twitter post that KO at the RAG back by 10mins to 2.10pm
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Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 13:57
| A beautiful sunny day in Bedford which might suit Bedford rather than Ampthill. Let's see. I cannot be there unfortunately so relying on the live video feed here in sunny Harrogate. |
Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 14:05
| My wifi goes down and what do you know. By the time I come back, Bedford 7-0 Ampthill. |
Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 14:06
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Not sure what happened for the Bedford try but Ampthill storm back with a try of their own. Bedford 7 - 7 Ampthill After just 5 minutes. |
Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 14:07
| Lovely to see a crowd again at Goldington Road |
Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 14:08
| Ampthill give away their customary early penalty and Bedford, rather boringly, go for the posts. |
Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 14:09
| Bedford 10-7 Ampthill |
Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 14:13
| And that last move sums up Bedford's season. Attacking and attacking, but then knocking on. |
Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 14:15
| And again. A fine Bedford attacking move with the final pass going behind the winger. |
Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 14:20
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And finally Bedford manage to finish an attack and secure their second try. Conversion missed. Bedford 15-7 Ampthill |
Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 14:26
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Good Ampthill pressure for 5 minutes sees them over for their 2nd try. beautifully converted. Bedford 15-14 Ampthill |
Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 14:31
| Absolutely no idea what just happened but it is one red card for Bedford and a yellow card for Ampthill. |
Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 14:34
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And Bedford immediately do what they have been trying to do all season and that is to score a near length of the pitch try. Simple conversion missed. Bedford 20-14 Ampthill |
Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 14:36
| Terrific handling move from Ampthill just failing at the last minute with a knock on. |
Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 14:42
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Both sides playing 7s style rugby and Bedford score their bonus point 4th try. Easy conversion. Ampthill 27-14 Ampthill |
Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 14:45
| Ampthill back to 15 men |
Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 14:45
| Penalty to Ampthill 5 metres out |
Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 14:47
| Opportunity missed but another penalty to Ampthill. Another lineout just 10 meters out. |
Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 14:48
| Opportunity missed again. |
Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 14:48
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And that is half time. Bedford 27-14 Ampthill |
Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 14:50
| Have just watched a replay of the sending off incident and with my very solid Ampthill hat on it was absolutely nothing. It didn't even warrant a yellow card. |
Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 14:59
| My halftime thoughts are this. Ampthill should win as they have the extra man and the forwards have played better than the Bedford pack, securing several turnovers. They have also wasted some fine try-scoring opportunities which I think will not be repeated in the second half. But...if the Bedford backs get the odd yard they will be dangerous. |
Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 15:04
| And we are off.. |
Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 15:07
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Great prolonged Ampthill handling resulting in the final breakthrough and Ampthill score their third try. Converted. Bedford 27-21 Ampthill |
Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 15:17
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Huge pressure by Ampthill sees a yellow card for Bedford with Ampthill immediately securing their 4th bonus point try. Bedford 27-28 Ampthill |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 15:18
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Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 15:22
| Impressive Bedford possession whilst down to 13 men |
Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 15:23
| Now Ampthill get a yellow card |
Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 15:25
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And Bedford score their 5th try. Conversion missed. Bedford 32-28 Ampthill This is a very topsy turvey game. Great to watch if you are a neutral |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 15:37
And who said that the game would be loose and got mocked?
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 15:45
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Jersey 17 - 10 Pirates HT ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 15:51
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A very quiet end to the game as Bedford hang on for a well earned victory. Bedford 32-28 Ampthill Full time. |
Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 15:52
| Great show by both sides. A real 15 man rugby show from both sides for an end of season bonanza. |
Posted By: OldNick
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 15:53
| Any news from the RAG? |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 15:55
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FT Rich 22-42 Cov. 3t-6t 5-0.
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 16:00
Well 14 mostly for the Blues!
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 16:19
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YC Pirates Try Jersey ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 16:24
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Pirates score 24 - 17 ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 16:27
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Jersey penalty 27-17 ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 16:42
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BP try for Jersey 32- 17 Time running out ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 16:45
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But still time for Pirates to get the BP 32-24 ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 16:47
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Another quick Pirates try 32-31 There is time fr the restart ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 16:55
Cracking end to the match and the season for a neutral.
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 17:05
| Belting game in Jersey today, 32-21 FT, a real tense twisting thriller and great for the home side to see out that awful final minute and get the win, and 6th spot. Pirates gave everything as well, but Reds had done enough... |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 18:22
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FT Donny 29-24 Nottm.
Last minute try seals the win. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 19:15
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Kudos to Nottingham they came to win and we had to work hard to 5 - 1 The best thing of the day was the crowd, second best was two of our academy boys scoring, last try as well for the victory ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 29 May 2021 at 20:04
https://www.jerseyreds.je/match_report/cornish-pirates-7-jersey-reds-8/" rel="nofollow - Cornish Pirates 7 Jersey Reds 8 - Jersey Reds Brilliant entertainment by both teams - safe journey home to Kernow lads. https://www.championshiprugby.co.uk/news/article/greene-king-ipa-championship-round-11-review-2021" rel="nofollow - Greene King IPA Championship: Round 11 Review (championshiprugby.co.uk)
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Posted By: Bigbluepip
Date Posted: 30 May 2021 at 09:30
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Does anybody know what the Bedford player, Oli Curry, was sent off for yesterday, everyone seemed totally confused as to the reason. ------------- I want you all to line up in a circle and pair up in three's alphabetically by height. |
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 30 May 2021 at 10:20
I was told by a friend watching, he was being held on the floor and kicked out anS made contact to the head. Cherub I think said earlier in the thread it was harsh? I half wondered if it related back to one of those friendliest where he was sent off against Ampthill.
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Posted By: Bluesman11
Date Posted: 30 May 2021 at 10:23
Stamping on someone’s head. The Ampthill player was antagonising him, but no excuse. Saw it live, looked deserved but not seen replays. Could be a lengthy ban. He’s a very lucky boy if he’s already signed a contract because he could miss half the season next year. Mike brown got 12 weeks reduced to 6 for pretty much an identical offence. Curry’s disciplinary record is poor (his 2nd red of the season, other for punching someone in the face, plus some yellows) so can’t see the same leniency applied. We can’t afford to carry a player that misses so many games through suspension. ------------- Championship Prediction League Winner 11/12 |
Posted By: oneagainstthehead
Date Posted: 30 May 2021 at 10:33
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Does anyone know what’s happening with the Saracens v Hartpury match? Is it going to be played or will Saracens be given a 28-0 bonus point win? ------------- Speak softly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 30 May 2021 at 12:18
A 28-0 would be a proper let-off for Hartpury! ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 30 May 2021 at 12:38
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Does not really matter Saracens will be first or second whatever they decide. Does it matter who is 9th or 10th. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Bluesman11
Date Posted: 30 May 2021 at 12:57
It matters somewhat as it determines who gets the 2nd leg at home. Sarries will be given a 20-0 win which will see them finish top. ------------- Championship Prediction League Winner 11/12 |
Posted By: oneagainstthehead
Date Posted: 30 May 2021 at 12:58
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Team finishing top gets to choose home/away order for play-offs. ------------- Speak softly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: Brizzer
Date Posted: 30 May 2021 at 13:24
Agree with everything you said CC. Great entertainment yesterday. Both sides gave it their all and a 1 point margin on the pitch is probably a fair reflection of the game. Wonderful to see the handful of Pirates supporters over and great to see the Pirates players make the effort to go over to them at FT. Just a shame that we couldn’t offer them a pitch side beer as it was hot yesterday. Can’t wait for next season already 🏉🏉🏉🇯🇪🇯🇪🇯🇪🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️ ------------- Tackle Low!!!!! |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 30 May 2021 at 13:26
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And do we think it would matter if Ealing had the choice? Even if Saracens lose players to the Lions and International tours, I think they will win both legs. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: oneagainstthehead
Date Posted: 30 May 2021 at 14:22
Indeed they might. However, we’ve seen from pre-season and early season that they are not quite the same formidable force without their key internationals. ------------- Speak softly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 30 May 2021 at 16:35
Find it highly improbable that Saracens might allow contracted players to go on a pre-Lions training camp (albeit in a most desirable location  ) rather than play for their employer in a brace of games which will determine whether they return to the top flight after a season 'below stairs'...As to home advantage, I've seen a suggestion that, regardless of who finishes top, Ealing might want to play the first leg at home as they would potentially sell more tickets when it starts 0-0, whereas Sarries may prefer the option of 'finishing the job' at home. I don't believe there is anything in the Champ regs about 20-0 or 28-0 or 4pts to 2pts etc award for Covid abandonment & even the theoretical possibility of the Hartpury game being staged next w/e, although that seems pretty unlikely. The organising committee will decide, apparently, so I expect we'll hear from them soon... If Hartpury were to lose by more than 43pts they would slip below Nottingham in the table & finish 10th.
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Posted By: Geoff DC
Date Posted: 30 May 2021 at 20:25
Do we know who the organising committee is and whether there is more than one of them ??
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 30 May 2021 at 21:24
If they use the same points system as in the Premiership, then cancellation would see Sarries awarded 4 points on a 0-0 tally. Thus Ealing would finish first with 45, and win the points differential by 1 as well. On the one hand, it isn't how I'd want to win. On the other...C'mon, they have 5 British and Irish Lions, and probably a bigger budget than the rest of the league put together!
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 30 May 2021 at 21:40
If they used the same format as the Championship in 2019/20 (& all leagues below), Sarries would be ranked on their average match points per game thus far of 4.44, leaving them behind ET who have registered 4.5. There are various options for us to speculate about...
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 30 May 2021 at 21:42
Match report including some stats analysis of narrow victory margins in games between the Reds and Pirates (there have been plenty): https://www.jerseyreds.je/match_report/jersey-reds-32-cornish-pirates-31/" rel="nofollow - https://www.jerseyreds.je/match_report/jersey-reds-32-cornish-pirates-31/
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 31 May 2021 at 11:31
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Verdict:
The Greene King IPA Championship Disputes Committee made the interim decision to postpone the round 11 fixture between Saracens and Hartpury University RFC [originally scheduled to be played on Saturday 29 May], after a small number of Hartpury University players tested positive for COVID-19 and the need to isolate several more players in accordance with the contact tracing protocols. The Committee considered the specific facts of this particular case, relevant regulations and supporting documentation and concluded that the match should be cancelled. The Committee concluded that the match should be considered as a 0 – 0 draw, with no league points awarded to either team. There is a right to appeal. ENDS |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 31 May 2021 at 11:42
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A 0-0 draw doesn't affect the integrity of the competition?
If the RFU had any integrity before, it's certainly lost it now. Utter joke. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 31 May 2021 at 12:28
I'm not saying I agree with the verdict, but the meaning of what I've highlighted in bold is clear, isn't it? Whatever the 'pools panel' result & whether Sarries get 0 points (or 2 or 4 or 5 or 100) they and ET are the top 2 and will contest the PO.
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Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 31 May 2021 at 13:41
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For what it is worth the history books will show EALING TRAILFINDERS top of the Championship ( subject to the two legged play off )
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Posted By: Trailfinder
Date Posted: 31 May 2021 at 14:30
| A pretty weird decision, I thought a default 20-0 would have been a little harsh on Sarries! Tbh I hope that Ealing decide to have the first leg at home anyway. |
Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 31 May 2021 at 15:18
------------- Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD. |
Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2021 at 07:29
Just to be pedantic for the fun of it - last season it was calculated as average points in home matches for outstanding home fixtures, and average points in away matches for outstanding away fixtures, so Sarries would be awarded five points.
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