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Topic: London and SE Prediction League Week 1
Posted By: Shamrose
Subject: London and SE Prediction League Week 1
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2021 at 11:08

As Monday is a Bank Holiday I thought I would post the 1st round fixtures a bit earlier than normal


CS Stags 1863 v Brighton 
Dorking v Tunbridge Wells 
Havant v Sidcup 
Hertford v Sevenoaks 
Maidenhead v North Walsham
Tring v Wimbledon 
Westcombe Park v Sutton & Epsom

To recap the scoring is based on the league points awarded for each game so 
Win 4 pts
Draw 2pts
4 try Bonus 1pt
Lose by 7 or less 1pt
To reward success we will also have
Predict all 7 games exactly 5pt bonus
Predict all 7 results correctly 3pt bonus

As usual any observations and comments on matches are welcome but please post your predictions in the same order as the above as it makes the scoring easier

With 5 sides new to the league this year and no form from last year and only a few warm up games as a guide all I can say is good luck to all

  


 















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Posted By: Shamrose
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2021 at 13:39

Just as an assist please see below the league positions and divisions the sides were deemed to be in at the end of the 2019/2020 season

4 promoted clubs and welcoming Sutton and Epsom back

2019/2020 Div Placed
Wimbledon LSE1 3
Hertford LSE1 4
Dorking LSE1 5
Tunbridge Wells LSE1 6
Sevenoaks LSE1 7
Sidcup LSE1 8
Brighton LSE1 9
Tring LSE1 10
CS Stags 1863 LSE1 11
Sutton and Epsom R N2S 14
Havant P L1S 1
Westcombe Park P L1S 2
North Walsham P L1N 1
Maidenhead P SWP 3
P Promoted
R Relegated



Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2021 at 07:22
So glad to have this back! I'll start the ball rolling (and it's a very tough one to start with!)

Civil Service 1-4 Brighton 
Dorking 0-5 Tunbridge Wells 
Havant 5-0 Sidcup 
Hertford 5-0 Sevenoaks 
Maidenhead 5-2 North Walsham
Tring 2-5 Wimbledon 
Westcombe Park 4-0 Sutton & Epsom


Posted By: Clueless like most
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2021 at 17:06
CS v B 0-5
D v TW 5-0 
H V Scup 5-0
H V 7ok 4-1
MH v NW 1-4
T V WBD 0-5 
WP v SE 4-1 

Good luck to all. 


Posted By: MaidsBoy
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2021 at 08:36
CS Stags 1863 v Brighton 4-1
Dorking v Tunbridge Wells 5-0
Havant v Sidcup 5-0
Hertford v Sevenoaks 5-1
Maidenhead v North Walsham 5-1
Tring v Wimbledon 0-5
Westcombe Park v Sutton & Epsom 4-1


Posted By: Welshie7
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2021 at 10:54
CS Stags 1863 v Brighton 4-1
Dorking v Tunbridge Wells 5-1
Havant v Sidcup 5-0
Hertford v Sevenoaks 5-1
Maidenhead v North Walsham 5-0
Tring v Wimbledon 0-5
Westcombe Park v Sutton & Epsom 5-1


Posted By: SurreyRugby
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2021 at 18:23
Hi, New to this. Hopefully you will accept me as a player


CS Stags 1863           v     Brighton               0-5
Dorking           v     Tunbridge Wells        5-0
Havant               v     Sidcup                 1-4
Hertford           v     Sevenoaks              1-4
Maidenhead          v     North Walsham          4-1
Tring               v     Wimbledon              0-5
Westcombe Park             v     Sutton & Epsom        5-0


Posted By: FEZ ANT PLUCKER
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2021 at 20:48
Here we go after 18 months and pretty blind about the strengths and weaknesses of most teams, particularly with the demise of OE,s and HH. Sure to learn more after next weekend..........

CS STAGS 1863 4-1 Brighton
DORKING 5-0 Tunbridge Wells
HAVANT 5-0 Sidcup
HERTFORD 5-1 Sevenoaks
MAIDENHEAD 5-2 North Walsham
Tring 0-5 WIMBLEDON
WESTCOMBE PARK 4-1 Sutton & Epsom.



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Posted By: Scrumtime
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2021 at 10:18
Civil Service 1-4 Brighton Brighton will be decent as for CS not sure 
Dorking 2-2 Tunbridge Wells Close could go either way 
Havant 5-0 Sidcup Havent will be in the mix at the top Sidcup I dont think so
Hertford 5-0 Sevenoaks Hertford look strong pre seasom, 7oaks new to this
Maidenhead 5-2 North Walsham. Maids could well be towards to top 
Tring 5- 1 Wimbledon The slope comes into play
Westcombe Park 0-5 Sutton & Epsom Sutton bounce back to Nat 2 


Posted By: HAVANT TONY
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2021 at 12:07
Looking forward to the men from Havant playing a higher league up after just missing out for a couple of seasons. it will be interesting how we pitch up against teams with spending power as opposed to us with none..I'm  pretty confident we will be a match for most
CS 4 BRIGHTON 1
DORKING 5 TW 1
HAVANT 5 SIDCUP 0
HERTFORD 5 SEVENOAKS 0
MAIDENHEAD 4 NW 1
TRING 0 WIMBLEDON 5
WP 4 SUTTON 1


Posted By: Ancient Oak
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2021 at 12:24
CS Stags 0 Brighton 5
Dorking  4 T Wells 1
Havant   2 Sidcup 4
Hertford 1 Sevenoaks 4
Maidenhead 2 Wimbledon 5
Westcombe 0 Sutton & E  5


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Posted By: Ancient Oak
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2021 at 12:27
Sorry correction !! I am very old!

Maidenhead 2 North Walsham 4
Tring 0 Wimbledon  5

other predictions as previously stated.


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Posted By: carlos fandango
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2021 at 22:45
CS Stags 1863  v Brighton               1-5      CS one of my perennial favourites for the drop.
Dorking  v Tunbridge Wells      5-2     As I recall, D were a very young side so a year off may help them.
Havant v Sidcup   5-0     Home match, new league (welcome back), only one result.
Hertford  v Sevenoaks     5-0   Attending my first pre-match lunch after 30 odd years, no other result acceptable Smile
Maidenhead v North Walsham    4-1   No clue but a long journey may have an effect.
Tring v Wimbledon          2-5   W to edge it. Is Tom Newton still playing?
Westcombe Park v Sutton & Epsom   4-1   Not sure but going with a tight home win.

Good luck to all. It's good to be back!


Posted By: fatbear
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2021 at 00:45
CS Stags 1-4 Brighton
Dorking 5-0 Tunbridge Wells
Havant 5-0 Siducp
Hertford 5-0 Sevenoaks
Maidenhead 5-0 North Walsham
Tring 1-5 Wimbledon
Westcombe Park 5-0 Sutton & Epsom


Posted By: Karlos F
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2021 at 13:50
Good to be back, a couple of new clubs to visit for me this season.
So not so many overseas players about this season? will anybody with deep pockets pick up some OEs players?
CS Stags 1 v 4 Bton
Dorking.  5 v 0 TWells
Havant.   4 v 1 Sidcup
Hertford 2 v 5 7Oaks
Maidenhead 5 v 0 N Walsham
Tring 0 v 5 Don's
WPark 2 v 5 S&E
Probably all wrong...
Don's and S&E to go up.
Good luck to all players and clubs.


Posted By: Anonymous
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2021 at 16:07
CS Stags 5-2 Brighton
Dorking 2-5 T Wells
Havant 5-0 Sidcup
Hertford 5-1 7Oaks
Maidenhead 5-0 North Walsham
Tring 4-1 Wimbledon
Westcombe Pk 5-2 S&E


Posted By: Fatty1973
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2021 at 18:18
Thank you Shamrose for taking this on again and good luck to all.
CS Stags 1863 1-4 Brighton 
Dorking  4-1 Tunbridge Wells 
Havant 1-4 Sidcup 
Hertford 4-0 Sevenoaks 
Maidenhead 4-1 North Walsham
Tring 1-4 Wimbledon 
Westcombe Park 1-4 Sutton & Epsom


Posted By: Wally
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2021 at 07:50
CS Stags 1 4 Brighton
Dorking 2-5 T Wells
Havant 5-0 Sidcup
Hertford 5-1 Sevenoaks
Maidenhead 4- 1   North Walsham
Tring 4-1 Wimbledon
Westcombe Pk 1   - 4 Sutton

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Posted By: Ghanian Eagle
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2021 at 08:41
CS 1 - Brighton 5
Dorking 5 - TW. 2
Havant 5 - Sidcup 1
Hertford 1 - Sevenoaks 4
Maidenhead 4 - N Walsham 1
Tring 1 - Wimbledon 5
WP 2 - S&E 5


Posted By: Kentish Man
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2021 at 12:47
CS 1 - Brighton 5
Dorking 5 - TW. 0
Havant 5 - Sidcup 1
Hertford 5 - Sevenoaks 0
Maidenhead 5 - N Walsham 0
Tring 0 - Wimbledon 5
WP 0 - S&E 5


Posted By: Shamrose
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2021 at 13:33

Something of a stab in thw dark but here goes

CS Stags 1863  5 v Brighton     2
No idea so home team in a high scorer 
Dorking  5 v Tunbridge Wells    1
Close but on the evidence of the warm up games I think Dorking will do well this year   
Havant 5 v Sidcup    2
Home advantage 
Hertford  5 v Sevenoaks   1
and again 
Maidenhead 5 v North Walsham    0
two newly promoted teams so no idea
Tring 1 v Wimbledon     5
Wimbledon have been strong for a few years and do not see that changing 
Westcombe Park  0 v Sutton & Epsom   5
S&E back down but suspect they will have too much for Westcombe Park

Good luck to all


Posted By: chinese dave
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2021 at 18:57
Let's be honest none of us really has a clue about each teams strength, so here's my guesses for this week, hopefully we'll have a better idea next week.

C S Stags 1863  1 v Brighton     4
With no evidence to back it up, i think Civil Service may struggle this season.
Dorking  4 v Tunbridge Wells    1
Dorking are always difficult to beat at home.
Havant 5 v Sidcup    0
Again with no evidence, i think Havant may be the suprise package this season.
Hertford  5 v Sevenoaks   0
Hertford splashing the cash i hear.
Maidenhead 5 v North Walsham    0
Long old trip for North Walsham for no return
Tring 4 v Wimbledon     1
Wimbledon may have more quality, but Tring can be awkward at home
Westcombe Park  2 v Sutton & Epsom   5
Heart rather than head after a pretty ordinary pre season.


Posted By: BigChief
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2021 at 10:11
CS Stags 4-0 Brighton 
Dorking 5-0 Tunbridge Wells 
Havant 5-0 Sidcup 
Hertford 5-0 Sevenoaks 
Maidenhead 5-0 North Walsham
Tring  0-4 Wimbledon 
Westcombe Park 0-5 Sutton & Epsom

Top 4 & Champs from:  Wimb, Hert, Dorks & S&E
Surprise Package: Maidenhead
Bottom:  'Not sure' think all the promoted teams (less a surprise package prob) will struggle in this league and an 'established side' may also fall through the trap door (IMO).
Good luck everyone !
 


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Posted By: MaidsBoy
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2021 at 12:24
Looking forward to getting going this Saturday!

Just to clarify- we haven’t been promoted, but transferred over from SW Prem. We were in 2nd when the season stopped, having just beaten Champions, Barnstaple 43-14. The PPG rule then placed us 3rd by virtue of having 2x home and 3x away games left, (compared to Weston who had 3 home, 2 away).

We felt we were in good shape and form to take that playoff spot for promotion to Nat 2 before the season was understandably stopped…

We are under no illusions that the London Prem is going to be tougher, but we’ll also be in a stronger position from an availability perspective too (travelling to Cornwall and Devon every other weekend takes it toll).

Hopefully meet some of you at Braywick this season, and at your respective grounds- good luck all.


Posted By: DICKON
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2021 at 12:35
CS Stags 1-4 Brighton - Tight and could go either way
Dorking 5-0 Tunbridge Wells - Dorking likely title contenders
Havant 5-0 Sidcup - Havant recruited well and plastic pitch a huge home advantage
Hertford 5-0 Sevenoaks - Herts tough at home
Maidenhead 5-0 North Walsham - Another plastic pitch, another huge home advantage
Tring  0-5 Wimbledon - Dons up there with Dorking at prize giving time
Westcombe Park 1-5 Sutton & Epsom - S&E will score plenty of points


Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2021 at 13:12
Big Chief - there is NO trapdoor to fall through this season as there will be no relegations 


Posted By: BigChief
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2021 at 13:32
Originally posted by Thatbloke Thatbloke wrote:

Big Chief - there is NO trapdoor to fall through this season as there will be no relegations 
Oops I forgot (and rushed the post!) Confused
Cheers TB Thumbs Up


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Posted By: chxlamw
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2021 at 16:05
CS Stags 4-1Brighton 
Dorking 5-0 Tunbridge Wells 
Havant 1-4 Sidcup 
Hertford 5-0 Sevenoaks 
Maidenhead 5-0 North Walsham
Tring  4-1 Wimbledon 
Westcombe Park 4-1 Sutton & Epsom


Posted By: Shamrose
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2021 at 09:18

Just to be clear the prediction league wil be scored as 4pts for a correct result and 5pts if it exactly matches the league pts awarded to each team

We then have the 5 pt bonus for perfect predictions of all games and 3pt for all correct results but I very much doubt we will be handing many of those out, certainly not until we can see some kind of form emerging which will probably be 5 games in

Good luck


Posted By: BruceElliott
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2021 at 09:41
CS Stags 1863  4 v 1      Brighton 
Dorking  0     v 5     Tunbridge Wells 
Havant 5 v 1     Sidcup 
Hertford  5 v 0     Sevenoaks 
Maidenhead    5     v      0     North Walsham
Tring 1 v 5     Wimbledon 
Westcombe Park   0     v 5     Sutton & Epsom

539 days since our last league fixture. Bring it on. 

Good luck all... but maybe a smidge less to Dorking! ;) An average start for you please! Come on Wells.

 I think my biggest concern this season has to be about match fitness for all clubs and the related increased risk of injury from 18 months of minimal impacts.

Here's to a competitive and safe season for all.


Posted By: Welshie
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2021 at 10:39
CS  Stags 0-4 Brighton
Dorking 5 -0 TW
Havant 1 -4 Sidcup
Hertford 5-0 Sevenokes
Maidenhead 5-0 NW
Tring 1_5 Wimbledon
Westcombe Park 4-1 S&E


Posted By: WESTCOMBE RANGER
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2021 at 12:26
So the results were as follows. 



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Posted By: Shamrose
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2021 at 14:19
I was at the Dorking TW match yesterday. Dorking shot out to an early lead and TW fought back in 2nd part of first half and it was 21. 11 to Dorking at half time. TW pushed very hard at start of 2nd half but Dorking held out and at the end their youth and fitness showed.  I would say two sides at opposite ends of the spectrum with TW being older and some players at the twilight of their careers whereas Dorking much younger and have filled out in the break period.  Only bug bear was the constant appealing for yellow cards by both sides and Sir gave them lectures about it more than once.  Late in 2nd half Dorking had two in the bin and TW 1 and suspect Dorking were lucky not have been carded earlier but the ref didn’t as he was sick of the appealing. Hope the RFU stamp this out as no part in the game and causes friction on the pitch

Good game with two good sides with a big crowd as Dorking Centenary year but they need to sort the bar out and get proper bar staff 


Posted By: half back
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2021 at 15:09
Good summary from Shamrose
 
some pics from the game
https://benhardisty.smugmug.com/Rugby/Dorking-RFC/Dorking-v-Tunbridge-Wells-September-2021/" rel="nofollow - https://benhardisty.smugmug.com/Rugby/Dorking-RFC/Dorking-v-Tunbridge-Wells-September-2021/


Posted By: HAVANT TONY
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2021 at 08:55
https://havantrfc.rfu.club/match/894034/big-win-over-sidcup-on-opening-day/" rel="nofollow - https://havantrfc.rfu.club/match/894034/big-win-over-sidcup-on-opening-day/

 
Great day at the lane on Saturday ..unfortunately  I missed my first game home and away in three consecutive  seasons !! due to a covid rescheduled  test match at the oval where England got 3 wickets in 7 hrs !!...painful and £6.90 a pint as well!😫


Posted By: BruceElliott
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2021 at 11:23
Originally posted by Shamrose Shamrose wrote:

I was at the Dorking TW match yesterday. Dorking shot out to an early lead and TW fought back in 2nd part of first half and it was 21. 11 to Dorking at half time. TW pushed very hard at start of 2nd half but Dorking held out and at the end their youth and fitness showed.  I would say two sides at opposite ends of the spectrum with TW being older and some players at the twilight of their careers whereas Dorking much younger and have filled out in the break period.  Only bug bear was the constant appealing for yellow cards by both sides and Sir gave them lectures about it more than once.  Late in 2nd half Dorking had two in the bin and TW 1 and suspect Dorking were lucky not have been carded earlier but the ref didn’t as he was sick of the appealing. Hope the RFU stamp this out as no part in the game and causes friction on the pitch

TW supporter here.  Broadly agree, although perhaps not quite so many old hands in the side as the above would suggest.  Wells finished both halves the stronger, even though that possession wasn't converted to points. You'd expect a side with older and in-their-twilight players to struggle with stamina towards the end of the half against a young side! :p They've obviously lived hard lives, bless them.  I've just had a quick look at our line up and there were maybe 4 or 5 of our starting line-up in their late 20s and up and another 5 who have played in our Academy in the last four or five years.  It's a good mix of youth and experience.  

21-3 after 17 minutes.  Dorking blitzed us early on.  For the remainder we were there or thereabouts.  Agree with the comments about reffing and cards.

It's going to be interesting to see how everyone beds in over the next few weeks and where we all are by mid-October.  

As we've got a folder of photos already, here's mine -  https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?vanity=twrfc&set=a.4184394548282481" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?vanity=twrfc&set=a.4184394548282481 Very TW oriented!


Posted By: Shamrose
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2021 at 13:18
Maybe I was just judging it on the number 8 who looks like he may have been a back in a past life😀


Posted By: BruceElliott
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2021 at 13:35
Originally posted by Shamrose Shamrose wrote:

Maybe I was just judging it on the number 8 who looks like he may have been a back in a past life😀

Ha. I've been watching him play since he was 13 or 14. Great hands and really reads the game well. He probably could have played at a higher level but he's very much a club man. His brother was Captain on Saturday. 

Not as young as he once was, but he's got a few years left in him yet!



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