LSE1 Halfway point
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Topic: LSE1 Halfway point
Posted By: Shamrose
Subject: LSE1 Halfway point
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2021 at 12:23
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Well this is the league table at half way point
Dorking still on top after seeing off North Walsham and Wimbledon in consecutive weekends in hard fought games but Wimbledon down to 5th from 2nd, that is how close this league is. Interested what everyones views are on how their teams have done so far. From my perspective Dorking have come on a lot in last few years and now have very competitive pack. They have also cut out the yellow cards and are not getting on the wrong side of Sir. as in past years. Also still a young side so some more to come. Looking forward to next round.
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Posted By: secondrow
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2021 at 13:21
| Hertford's next three games could be crucial, North Walsham, Wimbledon and Dorking. Early in the season we couldnt win a lineout, which made it difficult to win games, since then the set pieces have functioned well. We also welcome back a former captain of the club who last season was the captain of Ampthill in the championship. Lets hope that covid doesnt interfere though I guess if the season stopped now we would be promoted!! |
Posted By: FEZ ANT PLUCKER
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2021 at 16:23
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Next 5 games for top 5 DORKING HERTFORD NTH WALSHAM 7OAKS WIMBLEDON 18/12 TRING (h) NTH WALSHAM (h) HERTFORD (a) WEST PARK (a) MAIDENHEAD(a) 8/1 MAIDENHEAD(h) WIMBLEDON (a) WEST PARK(h) CS STAGS (h) HERTFORD (h) 15/1 HERTFORD (a) DORKING (h) CS STAGS (a) HAVANT (a) WEST PARK (a) 22/1 WEST PARK (h) TRING (a) HAVANT (h) SIDCUP (h) CS STAGS (h) 29/1 CS STAGS (a) MAIDENHEAD (h) SIDCUP (a) BRIGHTON (a) HAVANT (a) Improving Westcombe Park and lowly CS Stags feature prominently in the above, however fast improving Hertford seem to have the toughest schedule, whereas Sevenoaks seem to have the less demanding challenge ahead. Injuries and absences (holiday season and Covid tests) will likely play a part in defining team strengths and vulnerabilities. Whatever happens by the end of January 2022 this has surely been the most competitive and exciting season for many a year. Good luck to all. All views welcome. ------------- Fezantplucker |
Posted By: carlos fandango
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2021 at 16:53
| I think our entire season will be decided in the above matches. That ridiculous loss to Tring back in September looks like it will come back to haunt us come May. |
Posted By: Scrumtime
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2021 at 16:56
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Westcombe Pk have improved because Andy Pratt ex Canterbury d of r has taken over the coaching. With him and Dave Marshal they have a coaching team that have turned the results around. Add to that the half dozen baby OEs they have pick up at the start of the season, who are coming of age, they have picked up some good results. The next few weeks will be a test as they have 4 of the top 5, but Pratts input and coaching has been the major factor. |
Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2021 at 17:31
| Shamrose - I'm not quite sure why you think a 24 point gap between 1st & 7th constitutes a "tight" league? Cast your eye over Midlands Prem where its just 9 points - now that IS tight! |
Posted By: Sir_Q
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2021 at 17:33
Hilarious  |
Scrumtime wrote:Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2021 at 17:58
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Carlos - Plenty of sides will be promoted this season as there is a new league at level 3 and 2 new ones at level 4. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: dave2dave
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2021 at 18:51
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teams encouraging new players @ a cost see westcliff , rochford 1000 and others still trying to play snakes and ladders |
Posted By: Scrumtime
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2021 at 20:05
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Posted By: SurreyRugby
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2021 at 21:34
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At this point of the season, Westcombe Park cannot be improving too much. They have lost all their games heavily against the Top 5. Their 'so called' improvement has been against the mediocre rest of the league. Throw enough money at it.........and get little or nothing! |
Posted By: HAVANT TONY
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2021 at 10:30
So everyone below 5th are mediocre are we?🤦♂️ Gonna ask Santa to get you a torch for Christmas so you can see properly up your players tunnel cos it sounds like your head is stuck right up there at the moment 💩
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Posted By: WESTCOMBE RANGER
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2021 at 10:38
. I haven't read anyone so far stating WP have greatly improved as you appear to be alluding to, but if so, we at WP are not talking ourselves up. It's halfway, so the league placings do not lie at this stage. I have seen an improvement since week 6, and it is down to a few factors not just the tweaking of the coaching set up (reference to Scrumtime's informative post). In case you have forgotten we were one of three newly promoted teams into this (much higher standard) league. Not sure how others (those outside of the current elite top 5) will view your description of them as 'Mediocre'. Quite unwise in my view to provide teams with a ready made pre-match teamtalk. . Scrumtime- You seem to be well-versed with all things going on within Metropolitan Kent, and as I know you're local, why not pop in to see us sometime and meet some old friends. . Back on Topic, I can't see past Dorking for top spot, after that it depends on fixtures between the remaining 4 of the top 5. . Ranger ------------- The older I get, the better I was. |
Posted By: WESTCOMBE RANGER
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2021 at 10:41
Sorry Tony I was taking far too long writing my post I missed yours.  ------------- The older I get, the better I was. |
Posted By: FEZ ANT PLUCKER
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2021 at 12:56
------------- Fezantplucker |
Posted By: carlos fandango
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2021 at 15:33
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I would concur with Fez....I saw most of the WP game up at our place and they weren't that far away for a lot of the game. From what I recall they really struggled in the backs when ours cut loose. Not expecting an easy return match at all. And frankly all the sniping just makes those doing it look like petty minded children. If my school Year 8's behaved like it I would give them what for. Time some on here grew up.
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Posted By: @boatyjames
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2021 at 16:48
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From a Wimbledon perspective I am pretty happy with how we have been playing other than losing at S&E! It’s losses like that that mean you miss out at end of season (remembers a loss at Sevenoaks in Jan 2020 😕). We have had 4 or 5 front row injuries which mean our set piece is less competitive than in September but the replacements have all stepped up. I missed the game v Dorking on Saturday but heard it was a cracker and our players did us proud. We have had a few disciplinary issues (2 red cards) which we have to stamp out. I think that on our day we can beat anyone in this league so I have to be hopeful that we will keep in there to the end. Big game against Hertford in 8 January and I hope we have a few back for that one. |
Posted By: WESTCOMBE RANGER
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2021 at 17:20
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Interestingly, the top 5 each have 2 home and 2 away games against their rivals. Dorking (1) are away to Hertford (2) and North Walsham (3) Hertford (2) are away to 7Oaks (4) and Wimbledon (5) North Walsham (3) are away to Hertford (2) and Wimbledon (5) 7 Oaks (4) are away to Dorking (1) and North Walsham (3) Wimbledon (5) are away to Dorking (1) and 7Oaks (4). . I will leave others to read into the different scenarios that could unfold, or summise who has the (perceived) easier games. . Ranger ------------- The older I get, the better I was. |
Posted By: SurreyRugby
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2021 at 18:16
| ha ha Tony, love it......happy to play as 8 year olds.....happiest days of our lives! |
Posted By: Kentish Man
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2022 at 10:24
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Hi Shamrose, Happy New Year to you and all posters, I hope most teams are planning to play this weekend and look forward to the predictions are a long layoff. |
Posted By: Shamrose
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2022 at 12:13
Just updating this thread as we now have a group of 4 with some daylight between them and the rest of the top half of the table plus North Walsham have a game in hand
The top four play the other top half teams as over the rest of the season as follows Dorking have Westcombe Park (H) Havant
(H), Sevenoaks (H) and North Walsham (A) and Wimbledon (A) Hertford have North Walsham (H) Westcombe
Park (A), Havant (A) and Sevenoaks (A) Sevenoaks have Westcombe Park (A) ,
North Walsham (A), Wimbledon (H), Dorking (A) and Hertford (H) North Walsham (with a game in hand)
have Havant (H), Hertford (A), Westcombe Park (H), Sevenoaks (H), Wimbledon (A)
and Dorking (H) North Walsham look to have the hardest run in as they still have to play all top half teams whereas Hertford only have 4 but have 3 of those away. It is going to go right to the end of the season
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Posted By: carlos fandango
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2022 at 14:13
| Westcombe Park the kingmakers? |
Posted By: Kentish Man
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2022 at 14:34
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Shamrose BTW Dorking have Wimbledon at Home
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Posted By: PM009
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2022 at 15:09
Good result for WP Saturday, must have improved a lot from earlier in the season
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Posted By: Shamrose
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2022 at 15:38
Even better
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Posted By: Shamrose
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2022 at 16:31
I had a quick look at their record and the win against Wimbledon was the only one they have had against a side above them in the League, so the jury may be out on how much they have improved? . They have also only had only one win away from home. (i love the stats on the RFU for this stuff  )I guess we will see on Saturday at the Big Field which is forecast to be a cold but clear day One thing is for sure that there is plenty to come in this league and the standard has been really high in the games i have seen. Far better than some of the stuff on TV and oh so much better without the video ref! |
Posted By: WESTCOMBE RANGER
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2022 at 21:55
. Taking your post at face value where the Kings are to be the champions I personally don't think that we are capable of an upset away at either Dorking or North Walsham so the answer is an emphatic NO. We could be described as potential banana skins though. Whoever of the top 4 is eventually crowned, will be decided by their results against the other 3 plus Wimbledon who may well end up being the Kingmakers. Havant and Tring also deserve to be respected as potential Banana skins. ------------- The older I get, the better I was. |
Posted By: carlos fandango
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2022 at 22:06
| No hidden motives in my post WR. |
Posted By: WESTCOMBE RANGER
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2022 at 22:17
. Nor from me I just thought yours was a good reference point for me to air my opinions. I did understand where you were coming from and also wished to expand a little by referencing other banana skins. No doubt see you soon. ------------- The older I get, the better I was. |
Posted By: dave2dave
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2022 at 22:26
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good luck to all Let the Battle begin
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Posted By: carlos fandango
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2022 at 17:43
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Well potentially all the top four on 64. Great season.
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