LSE1 Week 16 Results
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Topic: LSE1 Week 16 Results
Posted By: Shamrose
Subject: LSE1 Week 16 Results
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2022 at 10:33
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Well a much tougher week to predict with Westcombe Park turning over Dorking and Maidenhead beating Tunbridge Wells Nobody got the Westcombe Park win result which was a really good game until the 22nd minute sending off of the Dorking lock for a dangerous tackle which changed the make up of the game but a couple did go for Maidenhead so well done Fez Ant Pucker and Wally with 27 each. No change at the top with Kentish mean moving 2pts clear of Ghanian Eagle. In the real league table we have 3 sides on 64 points, Sevenoaks, Hertford and Dorking with North Walsham on 59 but with a game in hand with!
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Posted By: PM009
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2022 at 15:20
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Shamrose was you at the Dorking v WP game? Interested to know what happened there, as you say nobody saw that result coming. Excellent result for WP and back to back losses for Dorking, any panic at the Big Field?
Hertford purring now, looking very strong.
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Posted By: Shamrose
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2022 at 16:39
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I was at the game but didnt see the sending off From what i could see from far end he had awarded a penalty to Dorking but then something happened away from the ball, someone said it was dangerous or tip tackle but no idea No panic yet, that will only happen if they lose at CS Stags on Saturday
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Posted By: PM009
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2022 at 17:46
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Fair enough, I saw WP earlier in the season and didn't envisage them getting the result they have of late. I also can’t see you slipping up to CS so panic averted, good luck
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Posted By: Happy
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2022 at 19:02
| Judging by Dorkings match reports they have had some really poor refs these past two weeks which can't help when you're on a promotion charge |
Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2022 at 19:22
| Ah.......... the refs fault, that old chestnut! |
Posted By: SurreyRugby
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2022 at 19:27
| Hi. I was at the dorking game. WP are a very different side. They played well and made it tough for dorking. I have no doubt that 15 vs 15 the result probably would have gone dorkings way. I didn't see the sending off either. The problem is that the refs do not have the benefit of TJs. The other issue is that a lot of the refs have just left school. They are tossed into difficult games. I guess it builds their experience for greater things. |
Posted By: WESTCOMBE RANGER
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2022 at 19:32
Depends what game you watched because in certain games we were, in my opinion, Clueless (unlike most) A link to the Dorking report is: http://dorkingrfc.com/news/dorking-vs-westcombe-park-match-report . Am not trying to big my club up at all, as you would expect a full team to beat 14 men over 60 minutes, unless you weren't that good, so yes we've improved but by how much, time will tell. ------------- The older I get, the better I was. |
PM009 wrote:Posted By: PM009
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2022 at 19:54
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Hi WESTCOMBE RANGER, I saw you play Sevenoaks and it wasn’t good. I have been impressed with the recent run of results, not least turning over Dorking last week, all the best
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Posted By: WESTCOMBE RANGER
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2022 at 20:07
Against Sevenoaks, we were pants !! ------------- The older I get, the better I was. |
Posted By: secondrow
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2022 at 22:53
| i thought the referee in the Hertford Dorking game was pretty good, I read the Dorking report on the game and didnt see anything that was written that was negative against her. Finally I thought that the Dorking report was a very good refection of the game, except that he did get the sequence of scores wrong in the second half, it went 12-0, 12-5, 19-5, 19-10. |
Posted By: FEZ ANT PLUCKER
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 11:02
Not making excuses for D's defeat on saturday as I thought WP were really up for it from the ko. and the early signs were ominous. WP were feisty, and fuelled with intent and stopped D's getting into a rhythm. Cant believe I also missed the red card (was re-fuelling at the bar), but it is what it is. No good complaining about refs as this is not our sport and I dont like to see it. We have to get on with it. We might need to reflect on our discipline. Having just lost a key front row for 3 weeks for indiscipline, (he returned saturday), it now seems we await the same fate for our lock, and whatever the cause or mitigation it happened, and this is not what we need entering the final 3 months of the season. In support of my team I must add that we have had a few key players missing for various reasons (injuries mainly) but Dorking will not panic. We are joint top of 3 and I can see this season going right to the wire. It will be interesting as I did say in an earlier post that IMO WP would have a say in the outcome of the title. How about these games in the coming weeks??? Westcombe Park v Hertford - 19.2.2022 North Walsham v Sevenoaks - 5.3.2022 Havant v Hertford - 12.3.2022 Dorking v Sevenoaks - 26.3.2022 Wimbledon v North Walsham - 26.3.2022 North Walsham v Dorking - 2.4.2022 Dorking v Wimbledon - 9.4.2022 Sevenoaks v Hertford - 23.4.2022 Plenty of ups and downs to come.
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Posted By: WESTCOMBE RANGER
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 11:13
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Fair comment Fez Ant . There are also 2 rearranged games that WP have preceeding those quoted just to add some extra spice. 1. WP v Sevenoaks 5.2.22 2. North Walsham v WP 26.2.22 ------------- The older I get, the better I was. |
Posted By: secondrow
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 11:15
| The most interesting one will be the last game of the season, Sevenoaks at home to Hertford, could it be first against second, or even more crucial second against third? |
Posted By: FEZ ANT PLUCKER
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 11:20
Well spotted WR. I was going from pre-season fixtures and overlooked the re-scheduled games. Even more interesting. ------------- Fezantplucker |
Posted By: SurreyRugby
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 13:32
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I read this week that the Championship is limiting its numbers to 12 teams next season. is this correct? If this is the case, and Ealing get promoted, then: 1. 12 teams in Championship next year means 2 go up from Nat 1 2. This leaves 13 in Nat 1, which means only 1 team goes up. does this mean the winners of Nat 2 North and South play off?? 3. If the above is correct, that leaves 31 teams in Nat 2 leagues. If there are 3 leagues of 14 in the new structure, that makes 42 teams at this level, meaning there are 11 promotion spots from the 4 Premier Leagues. does this all make sense? |
Posted By: HAVANT TONY
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 14:06
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NOPE !!!😂
Think you need to get out a bit more👍😂
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Posted By: Bin Licker
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 14:38
| I am sure it has been discussed at length before but do we have any idea on what the geographical areas will be for the 3 National Leagues? |
Posted By: Shamrose
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 15:04
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Given how tight it is at the top I wondered how the League table is arrived at which is as follows If two or more Clubs have the same number of League points at the end of the
Season, final league positions shall be determined firstly by the number of wins
achieved, then the number of draws and then on the basis of match points scored. (i) A Club with a larger number of wins in the League shall be placed higher
than a Club with the same number of League points but fewer wins. (ii) A Club with a larger number of draws shall be placed ahead of a Club
with a fewer number of draws. (iii) If Clubs have equal League points and an equal number of wins and
draws in the League then a Club with a larger difference between match
points ‘for’ and match points ‘against’ shall be placed higher in the
League than a Club with a smaller difference between match points ‘for’
and match points ‘against’. (iv) Should two Clubs have the same number of League points and an equal
number of wins and draws, and the same match points difference, a Club
having scored more match points ‘for’ shall be placed higher in the
League than a Club having the lesser number of match points ‘for’. (v) If this still does not establish the positions then the Clubs involved shall
be ranked according to the number of matches won, excluding the first
League match of the season. If necessary, this process shall be extended
to exclude the second match, third match and so on until the final
positions are established So the top 3 all have 13 wins but Hertford lead thanks to the draw. Sevenoaks are 2nd due to the points diff but they have played CS twice. If North Walsham win their spare game they would probably stay 4th as they have a lesser points diff than Dorking After the anti-climax of 2019/2020 this could be a humdinger of a finish
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Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 15:07
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SurreyRugby - you are more or less correct in your assumptions although final number of promotions will need to be tweaked once we know the future of London Scottish and Championship numbers are finally confirmed Bin Licker - Nat2 will be made up of North, South East and South West which is meant to mean less travelling but when illustrative leagues based on 2019/20 final tables were circulated it produced some weird computations (eg Chester in South West)
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Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 15:57
As far as I'm aware, it hasn't been officially announced, but the COO of Bedford basically confirmed it on this week's Championship Clubs Podcast.
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Posted By: Bin Licker
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 16:17
Chester playing in Cornwall? RFU really must have been on the sauce to come up with that one.
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Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 16:43
| Whenever you draw geographical lines there's always one or two clubs on the extremeties that will be hard done by. Obviously the finishing positions come April will be different from the ones they used for illustration purposes but I would still expect some anomalies and perhaps an appeal or two (which will obviously fail!) |
Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2022 at 11:11
Back in 2007-08, Luton played National Three South following a level transfer. Had they remained in the North - which, being a Midlands club, is where they should have been - they'd have been playing Tynedale and Darlington MP. No matter where you draw the boundaries, there will always be teams close to the edge who will feel hard done by.
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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2022 at 14:01
However as a Midlands team that would have been their natural position (travelling north) you cannot say the same for Chester ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2022 at 07:14
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Strange comment. Effectively what you're saying is that if the RFU had drawn these boundaries in 1871 then it would have been natural for Chester to play in the 'West' region, but because they drew different boundaries 150 years ago it's unnatural to put clubs in new regions today.
And yes, I get that Redruth to Chester is a bloody long way, but it's the same distance as Redruth to Canterbury, which is a 'natural' fit.
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Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2022 at 10:46
| Chester could escape the South West dependent on who finishes Top3 in Midlands Prem eg Newport(Salop), Bridgnorth, Bromsgrove are all well south of Chester OR maybe Loughborough Students (the most southerly of current Nat2 North - Bournville are technically further south but probably nailed on for South West) were Level transferred to South East and the most westerly of the South Eastern clubs gets shunted sidewards into South West( no idea who that would be??) |
Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2022 at 13:06
It could be Worthing or Henley - it has nothing to do with being most westerly, but is in fact calculated by taking the shortest combined mileage to the other teams in the division. A proviso to this is that if the difference is within 5%( I believe the number is correct) then they are treated as equal and the side that finishes the lower the previous season would make the move (as happened to Leicester Lions a couple of years ago when technically Hinckley were slightly shorter but within the buffer and finished ahead of Leicester in the table) ------------- RAID ON |