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Topic: Championship round 17
Posted By: OldNick
Subject: Championship round 17
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2022 at 20:21
Jersey Reds v Richmond : 14:00
Doncaster v Ampthill :14:30
Bedford Blues v Hartpury : 15:00
Coventry v Cornish Pirates :15:00
London Scottish v Ealing  : 15:00

And here's a welcome for the Pirates from Cov   https://fb.watch/aKM3NzN1zq/" rel="nofollow - https://fb.watch/aKM3NzN1zq/






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Posted By: Stalwart
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2022 at 21:26
Originally posted by OldNick OldNick wrote:

Jersey Reds v Richmond : 14:00
Doncaster v Ampthill :14:30
Bedford Blues v Hartpury : 15:00
Coventry v Cornish Pirates :15:00
Ealing v London Scottish : 15:00

And here's a welcome for the Pirates from Cov   https://fb.watch/aKM3NzN1zq/" rel="nofollow - https://fb.watch/aKM3NzN1zq/

Love that - funny how the three of them have exactly the same voice! Brilliant.


Posted By: Stalwart
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2022 at 21:28
Jersey Reds v Richmond 5 - 0
Doncaster v Ampthill  5 - 1
Bedford Blues v Hartpury 4 - 1 
Coventry v Cornish Pirates 1 - 4 
LS v Ealing  0 - 5


Posted By: oneagainstthehead
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 05:50
Originally posted by Stalwart Stalwart wrote:

Jersey Reds v Richmond 5 - 0
Doncaster v Ampthill  5 - 1
Bedford Blues v Hartpury 4 - 1 
Coventry v Cornish Pirates 1 - 4 
Ealing v London Scottish  5 - 0
Please note that the final fixture in this list should read:
‘London Scottish v Ealing’ - not that it’s likely to affect many predictions.


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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 09:07
Jersey Reds v Richmond 5 - 1 Mond will make Jersey work for their supper
Doncaster v Ampthill  5 - 0 hoping for the lads maintaining their fortress Castle Park track record
Bedford Blues v Hartpury 4 - 1 could go the other way but I think Bedford should hold out
Coventry v Cornish Pirates 4 - 1 Cov has to play their socks off to get this result, Pirates will have to play well to take the W
London Scottish v Ealing  0 - 5 not sure any other result is likely, go on Scottish prove me wrong please?


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Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 11:10
Jersey 4-1 Mond Usually close affairs Jersey should have the edge in the pack but Mond have excellent half backs who should keep it close - the best bits of these teams could probably beat Ealing.
Donny 5-0 Amps At home Donny to go nap.
Blues 2-2 Pury More likely 4-1 either way but I will punt for a draw
Cov 1-5 Pirates - The visitors looked great against Notts and are hitting form at the right time
Scottish 0-5 Ealing - Exiles forwards will make Ealing work but unless its a really heavy pitch Ealing should take this by at least 3 clear scores.
Any streamed games this weekend?




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Posted By: Old Gold
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 14:06

Bedford     4 - 1 Hartpury

Coventry    1 - 5 Cornish Pirates 

Doncaster   5 - 0 Ampthill

Jersey      5 - 0 Richmond

Scottish    0 - 5 Ealing 



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Posted By: Pappashanga
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 14:09
Jersey Reds v Richmond 4 - 1 
Doncaster v Ampthill  4 - 1 
Bedford Blues v Hartpury 2 - 2 Really haven't a clue 
Coventry v Cornish Pirates 1 - 4 Cov 
London Scottish v Ealing  1 - 5 


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Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 14:45
Jersey 4-1 Richmond. Per the write-ups, Jersey looked quite lively last week. I think their mojo will see them home against Richmond.
Doncaster 5-0 Ampthill. Doncaster are on a roll, and they are playing at home. And although Ampthill are showing they can compete in this division, they are understandably not quite there against the professional sides. Dependant on health issues I might try to get to this one.
Bedford 5-2 Hartpury. The Bedford backs have not produced recently. Here is their chance to re-emerge, especially as Hartpury have lost their international Number 8!
Coventry 1-4 Cornish Pirates. The home side's injury woes continue and although they will put up a good effort, the Pirates should get the result.
London Scottish 0-5 Ealing. If I was the Ealing coach I would be applying the Australian approach. Go just as hard for the tenth try as the first. But I am not their coach so this might be closer than you think.

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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 18:30
The Blues season is falling apart! After beating Jersey I expected them to kick on and try be in the top 4 or at least me comfortably 5th.


Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 21:02
Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:

The Blues season is falling apart! After beating Jersey I expected them to kick on and try be in the top 4 or at least me comfortably 5th.

2 defeats in a row doesn't constitute a season falling apart TB! The Reds lost successive games to Blues & Donny either side of NY, gaining nil points - twice - for the only occasions so far this season & seeing a 7-game unbeaten home run crash & burn. Disappointing, but not the end of the world, and we managed a battling win to get the train back on the track last w/e... 


Posted By: BigChief
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 09:11
Jersey 5 - 1 Richmond
Doncaster 5 - 0 Ampthill
Bedford 5 - 2 Hartpury
Coventry 0 - 5 Cornish Pirates
London Scottish 0 - 5 Ealing

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Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 11:43
Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:

The Blues season is falling apart! After beating Jersey I expected them to kick on and try be in the top 4 or at least me comfortably 5th.

2 defeats in a row doesn't constitute a season falling apart TB! The Reds lost successive games to Blues & Donny either side of NY, gaining nil points - twice - for the only occasions so far this season & seeing a 7-game unbeaten home run crash & burn. Disappointing, but not the end of the world, and we managed a battling win to get the train back on the track last w/e... 
TB supports a club where the supporters expect success because its what they have grown used to whereas in practice where any club ends up in the Championship league table probably reflects the investment in their squad and their luck or otherwise with injuries.

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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 13:54
It might surprise you to know that some of the semi-Pro sides in the Championship are spending way more on their squads than some of the Full - Pro sides so that statement is slightly flawed. 

Those clubs have players that are demanding wages way above what the Knights will pay, and pretty sure the Reds too - not sure how the Pirates budget is these days - and we know Ealing is swimming in cash (ish). The Semi-Pro clubs are still paying big bucks or giving opportunities in the City to work that pays nicely.

Luck and Injuries may have a part to play admittedly 


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Posted By: Brizzer
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 17:24
Jersey Reds v Richmond 5 - 0 … Comfortable home win obviously!!
Doncaster v Ampthill 5 - 0 … Ampthill have some steel about them at the moment and will be a hard nut to crack, but Knights at home are formidable this season.
Bedford Blues v Hartpury 5 - 0 … Clear as day to me this one. Forecast is showing a great day for running rugby, none better at it than Bedford at home.
Coventry v Cornish Pirates 1 - 4 … I changed this from 0-5 to 1-4 as Pirates have struggled at times on the road this season. Cov not quite themselves this season, but improving, so could be a tighter game than I first thought.
London Scottish v Ealing 0 - 5 … Anything can happen at this level, but this would be one of the biggest shocks in years. Could make the league interesting though.

Good luck y'all. Stay safe now!   

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Posted By: Runitback
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 18:46
Which Semi pro clubs . . . I find that very hard to believe? What are your sources!!!

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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 20:42
Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:

The Blues season is falling apart! After beating Jersey I expected them to kick on and try be in the top 4 or at least me comfortably 5th.

2 defeats in a row doesn't constitute a season falling apart TB! The Reds lost successive games to Blues & Donny either side of NY, gaining nil points - twice - for the only occasions so far this season & seeing a 7-game unbeaten home run crash & burn. Disappointing, but not the end of the world, and we managed a battling win to get the train back on the track last w/e... 
TB supports a club where the supporters expect success because its what they have grown used to whereas in practice where any club ends up in the Championship league table probably reflects the investment in their squad and their luck or otherwise with injuries.

Where the real disappointment is, we have performed (expect Ealing) well against the top 4 clubs, beat Jersey and Knights at home, arguably could’ve beat Pirates away despite playing with 14 men for 40mins and Jersey away was close early on.

We seem to be lacking a bit of confidence at the moment and struggle against the lower teams more. We destroyed Ampthill away but at home it was one of the most boring Blues performances I have seen, which just kept dragging on.


Posted By: Pappashanga
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 22:24
Blues line out and poor defence against rolling mauls are basic weaknesses. You can have scintillating backs but if the engine room is faulty you will struggle.



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Posted By: dropout22
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 23:36
Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

It might surprise you to know that some of the semi-Pro sides in the Championship are spending way more on their squads than some of the Full - Pro sides so that statement is slightly flawed. 

Those clubs have players that are demanding wages way above what the Knights will pay, and pretty sure the Reds too - not sure how the Pirates budget is these days - and we know Ealing is swimming in cash (ish). The Semi-Pro clubs are still paying big bucks or giving opportunities in the City to work that pays nicely.

Luck and Injuries may have a part to play admittedly 

Although the championship has a number of teams who train in the evening as opposed to in the day, i'd argue it's still very much a professional league.
One key reason being as pointed out above is a number of full/time players earn less then their part/time counterparts, regardless of the fact they train in the evening. These players are earning part-time what others earn for their living, in the same league.
Regarding Jobs in the city, i don't think any club currently provides these as a sweetener for players to join that are based within London. 
The only "proper" semi-pro teams i'd argue are Richmond and potentially London Scottish who i'd guess have the smallest and second smallest budget in the league. The others are either hybrid or in-between models or just plain and simple full/time train in the day outfits.

Whilst potentially receiving lower wages then part/time counterparts, full/time clubs IMO have an advantage in the fact that they're full-time, they have a much larger amount of contact time both to train but also to gel as a squad, they'd likely have a longer pre-season aswell. They would have more time for stuff such as S&C, Skills, Analysis , those 1%'s that as fans sometimes it cannot be seen but come matchday across a season those marginal gains can have a big impact. 




Posted By: dropout22
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 23:39
Jersey Reds 1-4 Richmond
Doncaster 5-0 Ampthill
Bedford Blues 2-5 Hartpury
Coventry 1-5 Cornish Pirates 
London Scottish 1-5 Ealing Trailfinders 



Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 07:03
Originally posted by Runitback Runitback wrote:

Which Semi pro clubs . . . I find that very hard to believe? What are your sources!!!

My source is our Head Coach - who has stated that offers he has made to players have been declined on the basis that they are being offered more at the Semi-Pro clubs. The Semi-Pro clubs also tend (in a number of situations) to get more DR players meaning their income stream can focus on paying their direct contracted players more. One thing for sure is that the Knights do not have a top 4 budget, however by focussing on a younger, smaller squad they can offer great coaching and playing opportunities which is attractive to these players starting out in their rugby careers

As for city jobs - these might not be directly supplied by the clubs, as a sweetener. but via sponsors etc. / also there is the access to higher paying jobs just because that is how the market is - the nearer the city of London the higher the pay opportunities are / the more jobs there are for well educated people (and we should recognise that in rugby union a lot of the players have been to university thus implying "well educated"). In Doncaster access to these roles are more restricted so there is less potential for these youngsters to get these opportunities.


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Posted By: Donnyknightfan
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 16:36
Predictions this week:
Jersey 4 v 1 Richmond - A tricky one because Richmond have started hitting some form again but Jersey will probably grind out a close victory.
Doncaster 5 v 0 Ampthill - Close for probably 60 minutes but then Donny’s extra quality to show. Ampthill are making themselves hard to beat though so I’m not expecting a cakewalk. Donny by 10. 
Bedford 5 v 2 Hartpury - I’ve given up trying to work out Bedford. It seems as though they can beat or lose to anyone, as the recent Ampthill and Richmond games have shown. I think they may edge this though. Hartpury have leaked a lot of points recently and that’s not a great habit to have when going to GR. 
Coventry 1 v 4 Cornish Pirates - The general feeling is that Cov have been poor this season yet I was looking through their results and they have still only lost one game at home (Ealing). Granted a lot of their wins at the BPA have been narrow scrapes against teams you would expect them to beat. I think Pirates will win this but Coventry will get something.
London Scottish 0 v 5 Ealing - Won’t be anything like the reverse fixture but the result should still be the same. Could Scottish score 4 tries?. Doubt it but hoping for a big upset. 


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Posted By: Welshie7
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 18:58
Jersey 5 - 1 Richmond Jersey tough at home but Richmond will make them work hard for the win

Doncaster 4 - 1 Ampthill Slugfest

Bedford 5 - 2 Hartpury Free scoring teams....aka not very good in defence

Coventry 0 - 4 Cornish Pirates Pirates to get there in the end 

London Scottish 0 - 5 Ealing Unless Ealing have major illness on the day this will be very one sided....or at least should be in Ealing are truly a Premiership team in waiting


Posted By: Runitback
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 19:20
Jersey Reds 4-1 Richmond - Full timers at home against part timers Smile
Doncaster 4- Ampthill A really good tight game . . again a full time home team should always be favourites against part timers . . if nothing else fitness should be significantly better!!!
Bedford Blues 5-2 Hartpury . . absolutely no idea here . .. so depends on how many loan players etc etc
Coventry 1 -4 Cornish Pirates  . . I cannot make my mind up here . . no doubt Cov will win!!!
London Scottish 0-5 Ealing Trailfinders  - Surely no mistakes from Ealing . . although LS motivated by last weeks result!!!!


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Posted By: Monkey Magic
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 19:46
London Scottish v Ealing Trailfinders - Postponed- Covid in Scottish camp



Posted By: Bunkermentality
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2022 at 11:00
Postponed fixture is mirrored by Ealing Trailfinders 1871 v London Scottish Lions at Vallis Way which is on. These are the amateur teams. Details http://respiceprospice.co.uk/events/event-816/" rel="nofollow - HERE .


Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2022 at 13:04


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Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2022 at 13:27
https://express.adobe.com/page/HO0tICzBypxGZ/" rel="nofollow - Jersey Reds v Richmond (adobe.com)




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Posted By: All the Way
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2022 at 13:58
Jersey Reds v Richmond 5 - 1
Doncaster v Ampthill  5 - 0
Bedford Blues v Hartpury 5 - 1 
Coventry v Cornish Pirates 1 - 4 
LS v Ealing  0 - 5


Posted By: Member728
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2022 at 21:22
now in Jersey

Jersey Reds v Richmond Reds off the boil Mond due some luck in this fixture   1-4
Doncaster v Ampthill  5 - 0 Amps awkward team but not this time 5-0
Bedford Blues v Hartpury Blues disjointed this season 5-0
Coventry v Cornish Pirates Cov solid at home so 4-1
LS v Ealing  Covid nothing to do with the incident after the Mond gameBig smile

for the prediction League i have picked the Cov game for bonus points
If you correctly predict the  exact result say 4-1 to Coventry you will get 5 points plus a bonus of another 5 points



Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2022 at 22:57
Jersey Reds v Richmond 5 - 0 - I can't pick against Jersey at home, even if I did get stung by the Doncaster result.
Doncaster v Ampthill  5 - 1 - Top 3 club at home, yes, I think so. Donny very much on-form.
Bedford Blues v Hartpury 1 - 4  - No Nathan Hughes this week, but I feel like Hartpury have had better form this year as an actual team than in previous years - potentially due to no A-league keeping their squad more intact.
Coventry v Cornish Pirates 1 - 5  - Cov did not look good against Ealing last week, and I don't think that they get well against Pirates, though I  am hoping for an upset.
LS v Ealing  0 - 5 - I think Ealing can get 5 points on this one even when it is postponed.


Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 09:26
The BBC website is showing the match between Doncaster and Ampthill is postponed. Is this a typo as it also shows the London Scottish v Ealing game as being on?

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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 09:47
Originally posted by Cherub Cherub wrote:

The BBC website is showing the match between Doncaster and Ampthill is postponed. Is this a typo as it also shows the London Scottish v Ealing game as being on?
Nowt on the Donny site, so I'd imagine it's incorrect.


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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 10:09
The Rugby Paper has done a preview of this weekend's matches

https://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/all/domestic-club-rugby-union/the-english-rugby-championship/347886/championship-preview-can-chasing-pack-catch-ealing/" rel="nofollow - Championship preview: Can chasing pack catch Ealing? (therugbypaper.co.uk)


Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 10:27
No


Posted By: JohnLowe
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 11:07
I have been assured that our game against Ampthill is definitely still on


Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 11:46
I'm afraid the process of getting confirmed KO dates/times on https://www.championshiprugby.co.uk/fixtures-and-results?competition=173&season=2021-2022#fixtures" rel="nofollow - official Champ site has been rather tortuous... with still several gaps/TBCs remaining across next 2 months. And that's where the BBC & other listings providers appear to source their info from Unhappy


Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 14:55
HT Reds 12 Richmond 5, visitors were playing into stiff breeze in 1st half and so will fancy their chances of getting back into this...


Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 14:56
Knights 7 Ampthill 0 on 23 mins


Posted By: Member728
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 15:01
Agree Islander 


Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 15:07
Knights 12 Ampthill 0 on 35 mins


Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 15:10
Knights 12 Ampthill 5 on 38 mins


Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 15:12
Knights 12 Ampthill 5 on ht mins


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 15:54
HT Cov 21-11 CP 2t-1t

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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 15:55
Long stoppage for a nasty ankle injury to a CP player.

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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 15:59
Knights 12 Ampthill 10 on 64 mins


Posted By: Member728
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 16:01
29 -13 Ft slightly flattering Jersey  but cannot complain about the  result Jersey  pack played really well 2nd half an intelligent 2nd 40 mins by  Jersey 


Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 16:04
Originally posted by Member728 Member728 wrote:

29 -13 Ft slightly flattering Jersey  but cannot complain about the  result Jersey  pack played really well 2nd half an intelligent 2nd 40 mins by  Jersey 

agree 728, Reds were impressive after the break. Scrum hadn't got much change out of Mond in 1st period while LO had wobbled, but these areas were very efficient after HT, discipline good and when Mond tried to chase a late score, an error came and suddenly the margin was a wee bit flattering...


Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 16:07
Knights 19 Ampthill 10 on 76 mins
Knights 19 Ampthill 13 on ft


Posted By: Isithalftimeyet
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 16:48
Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Originally posted by Member728 Member728 wrote:

29 -13 Ft slightly flattering Jersey  but cannot complain about the  result Jersey  pack played really well 2nd half an intelligent 2nd 40 mins by  Jersey 

agree 728, Reds were impressive after the break. Scrum hadn't got much change out of Mond in 1st period while LO had wobbled, but these areas were very efficient after HT, discipline good and when Mond tried to chase a late score, an error came and suddenly the margin was a wee bit flattering...

Agreed a good result for Jersey in the end but certainly made hard work by a robust Richmond.  It was a bit like the Ampthill game where possession and territory would indicate an easy win but it was far from that.  Fair play to Jersey for sticking with it like last week and grinding out the result.  Richmond were good value as ever and particularly disruptive at the line out and on another day....


Posted By: Capt Sparrow
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 16:49
Cov21 - Pirates 21



Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 16:50
Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Originally posted by Member728 Member728 wrote:

29 -13 Ft slightly flattering Jersey  but cannot complain about the  result Jersey  pack played really well 2nd half an intelligent 2nd 40 mins by  Jersey 

agree 728, Reds were impressive after the break. Scrum hadn't got much change out of Mond in 1st period while LO had wobbled, but these areas were very efficient after HT, discipline good and when Mond tried to chase a late score, an error came and suddenly the margin was a wee bit flattering...
Fully agree with both summaries - this looked like a one score either way match up to 55 mins but the Jersey subs had a real impact. Good to see a Jersey scrum half run with the ball a couple of times - almost a first this season. Mond locks were huge and their fly half had a cracking game and was very unlucky to see his team ultimately take no points out of a match they contributed so much to. Safe trip back lads.

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Posted By: Capt Sparrow
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 17:05
Cov21 Pirates 31  BP for CP


Posted By: Cherub
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 17:10
I really must stop worrying that Ampthill will take an absolute beating every time they play an established top Championship side. Once again they nearly pulled off a last minute win at Doncaster’s fortress. This season they are the “nearly” team. Hopefully next season will see them on the right side of some of these results.

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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 17:29
Bedford 10 Hartpury 34, big win for 'Pury...


Posted By: Donnyknightfan
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 17:34
Originally posted by KnightsBoy KnightsBoy wrote:

Knights 19 Ampthill 10 on 76 mins
Knights 19 Ampthill 13 on ft

That game at Castle Park today certainly wasn’t aesthetically pleasing!. It was a real slog of a game in extremely windy conditions. Donny did their best to lose the game by gifting Ampthill their two tries and squandering several chances in the red zone in the second half. That performance was not at the standards we’ve set at home this season. To their credit, Ampthill’s defence was excellent all game and their forwards more than matched a very good Donny pack. The A’s might feel that on another day they could have easily won the game. My overriding feeling is relief at the fact we got the W, it was too close for comfort. The best crowd of the season showed up today, well done to the 1,131 who braved the cold. It was freezing!. Still not totally warm now. 


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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 18:01
Just back home after a late finish and a chastening second half.
Lord knows what the penalty count was against Cov, but sir's arm had birds4it and a few twigs on it by full time.


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Posted By: Bluesman11
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 18:04
Bedford awful in every facet of the game today. Hartpury v good, the best team we have played this season other than Ealing. Can’t even say they were boring, played some scintillating rugby. The number 9 on loan from Glos destined for a bright future

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Posted By: Hoffee
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 18:32
Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

Just back home after a late finish and a chastening second half.
Lord knows what the penalty count was against Cov, but sir's arm had birds4it and a few twigs on it by full time.

Nice to have it go the other way for once. As a Pirates supporter I'm well used to watching us concede 20+ penalties a game. 


Posted By: Bigbluepip
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 19:50
Agree with Bluesman 11, Hartpury by far they better side and could have scored 4 tries in the 1st half, Bedford were woeful. Other than our 11, 14 and 15 we had no energy, balls taken standing still, no support play, no lines run, just not a Bedford side we’re used to seeing at GR. It looked like we were playing with 13 men and content to soak up the attacks and play for time.
Our one try was a lucky turnover from grubber through that got blocked, although very well finished by Adamson. Other than that I don’t think we threatened the try line, need to sort it out fast as I can’t see us even getting close in the next 3 matches, I hope I’m proved wrong.


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Posted By: RobC
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 20:17
The Cov game was overshadowed by a serious injury to a Pirates player who was clearly in incredible pain.  Good luck to him with his recovery.


Posted By: covchopper
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 20:20
Not surprised you usually concede penalties if the officials play the offside rule. I think I missed the new rule changes abolishing the offside law. When did they come in or did the AR nod off in the second half?  The crowd around me were apoplectic at him in the second half. Before anyone says that always happens - I know but trust me this was a level above. He did penalise it once to very ironic cheers. 

I know I am completely biased and fully appreciate my view is not always shared by the opposition supporters or the officials but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a ref take against one team quite so dramatically after half time. He was pretty even first half. Some disputable decisions either way but that’s always the case. Did someone say something rude to him at half time? I’m not one to usually complain about officials after a game and am fully aware we gave some silly penalties away. Usually it evens itself out over 80 mins but when he starts giving a mark to the opposition when the ball is caught outside the 22 then you know it’s not your day. And don’t start me on the winger’s offside and how the AR missed that I’ll never know. Right under his nose!

I am truly baffled. 

I’m the first to say fair play when the opposition beat you fair and square and the pirates deserved it on their 2nd half professionalism but I left feeling all the energy joy and hope had been sucked out of that game in the second half after a good open first half from both sides.  Fair play to Pirates - they did a job, used their nous and quietened the crowd etc but blimey too much of that 2nd half will turn the crowds away. 




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Posted By: cheshire exile
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 23:59
Originally posted by RobC RobC wrote:

The Cov game was overshadowed by a serious injury to a Pirates player who was clearly in incredible pain.  Good luck to him with his recovery.
Callum Patterson, dislocated ankle apparently. Awful luck for him as it was his second game back after a long term knee injury.


Posted By: Cricks at 2
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2022 at 08:24
Originally posted by Bigbluepip Bigbluepip wrote:

Agree with Bluesman 11, Hartpury by far they better side and could have scored 4 tries in the 1st half, Bedford were woeful. Other than our 11, 14 and 15 we had no energy, balls taken standing still, no support play, no lines run, just not a Bedford side we’re used to seeing at GR. It looked like we were playing with 13 men and content to soak up the attacks and play for time.
Our one try was a lucky turnover from grubber through that got blocked, although very well finished by Adamson. Other than that I don’t think we threatened the try line, need to sort it out fast as I can’t see us even getting close in the next 3 matches, I hope I’m proved wrong.
Agreed BBP, I thought the Hartpury 9 and 13 were outstanding, in a very good all round team.  Blues will be playing Donny and Ealing away next, followed by Pirates at home, any chance of points at all is going to take some very hard work.


Posted By: Elijah Cadman
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2022 at 08:53
Originally posted by covchopper covchopper wrote:

Not surprised you usually concede penalties if the officials play the offside rule. I think I missed the new rule changes abolishing the offside law. When did they come in or did the AR nod off in the second half?  The crowd around me were apoplectic at him in the second half. Before anyone says that always happens - I know but trust me this was a level above. He did penalise it once to very ironic cheers. 

I know I am completely biased and fully appreciate my view is not always shared by the opposition supporters or the officials but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a ref take against one team quite so dramatically after half time. He was pretty even first half. Some disputable decisions either way but that’s always the case. Did someone say something rude to him at half time? I’m not one to usually complain about officials after a game and am fully aware we gave some silly penalties away. Usually it evens itself out over 80 mins but when he starts giving a mark to the opposition when the ball is caught outside the 22 then you know it’s not your day. And don’t start me on the winger’s offside and how the AR missed that I’ll never know. Right under his nose!

I am truly baffled. 

I’m the first to say fair play when the opposition beat you fair and square and the pirates deserved it on their 2nd half professionalism but I left feeling all the energy joy and hope had been sucked out of that game in the second half after a good open first half from both sides.  Fair play to Pirates - they did a job, used their nous and quietened the crowd etc but blimey too much of that 2nd half will turn the crowds away. 


Interesting observations.   Just to clarify to things.  1. There has to be an offside line, there is not in open play.  2. Once 9 or acting scrum half lifts the ball, players can come forward, 3. if the full back catches the ball with one foot inside the 22m then mark is perfectly legal.  I simply offer these comments  to help in your own awareness of the laws.  Of course if you have watched the video of the game and you are correct in law then I apologise.  I just wanted to clarify, as I often here offside called when in fact there is no offside line.   



Posted By: RobC
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2022 at 09:20
The cry of 'offside ref' is a frequent and usually misused one at Butts Park Arena, but Pirates were up incredibly quickly at every breakdown - not open play - effectively smothering Cov's attacking opportunities.  
Still, you play the ref and Pirates were probably just worth the win.



Posted By: kempstonblue
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2022 at 09:38
Originally posted by Cricks at 2 Cricks at 2 wrote:

Originally posted by Bigbluepip Bigbluepip wrote:

Agree with Bluesman 11, Hartpury by far they better side and could have scored 4 tries in the 1st half, Bedford were woeful. Other than our 11, 14 and 15 we had no energy, balls taken standing still, no support play, no lines run, just not a Bedford side we’re used to seeing at GR. It looked like we were playing with 13 men and content to soak up the attacks and play for time.
Our one try was a lucky turnover from grubber through that got blocked, although very well finished by Adamson. Other than that I don’t think we threatened the try line, need to sort it out fast as I can’t see us even getting close in the next 3 matches, I hope I’m proved wrong.
Agreed BBP, I thought the Hartpury 9 and 13 were outstanding, in a very good all round team.  Blues will be playing Donny and Ealing away next, followed by Pirates at home, any chance of points at all is going to take some very hard work.

I was at work yesterday, so missed the match. Sounds like I was lucky.

Seriously not being a stats person, i wonder how a lot of clubs will fare as the league element of the season ends. Six Nations matches coming up, will clubs with dual registered players see parent clubs recall them as other players join up with national teams?




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Posted By: covchopper
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2022 at 11:08
Thanks Elijah and Rob C

I have calmed down a bit from last night and in the cold light of day have to take my hat off to pirates as they played the officials better than we did. They twigged the officials weren’t policing offside but we didn’t. I know the BPA calls for offside and always take with a pinch of salt  as I know both sides are as guilty but that one with the winger - really?

If that is the rule on claiming a mark then fair enough and I give way on that. I felt we were on the rough end of the officials with at least 3 penalties which I still can’t fathom today (but I expect I am not unusual in that). The problem with that against the pirates is you know that they will kick it to the corner and maul it over for a try whilst you are still scratching your head for what the original offence was but hey ho I suppose that happens to everyone and we’ll get the benefit on another day. 

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Posted By: Bigbluepip
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2022 at 14:34
Originally posted by Cricks at 2 Cricks at 2 wrote:

Originally posted by Bigbluepip Bigbluepip wrote:

Agree with Bluesman 11, Hartpury by far they better side and could have scored 4 tries in the 1st half, Bedford were woeful. Other than our 11, 14 and 15 we had no energy, balls taken standing still, no support play, no lines run, just not a Bedford side we’re used to seeing at GR. It looked like we were playing with 13 men and content to soak up the attacks and play for time.
Our one try was a lucky turnover from grubber through that got blocked, although very well finished by Adamson. Other than that I don’t think we threatened the try line, need to sort it out fast as I can’t see us even getting close in the next 3 matches, I hope I’m proved wrong.
Agreed BBP, I thought the Hartpury 9 and 13 were outstanding, in a very good all round team.  Blues will be playing Donny and Ealing away next, followed by Pirates at home, any chance of points at all is going to take some very hard work.

Agree Cricks, Hartpury 9 and 13 were their stand out players, very quick feet, and their No.5, stood out in a different way being close to 7ft tall and taking 99% of line out ball for them.


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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2022 at 15:31
Was the Hartpury No9 Venner?
If so, yes, he's excellent.
Another loaner I believe, but excellent.


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Posted By: Baggins
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2022 at 16:08
Originally posted by Bigbluepip Bigbluepip wrote:

Agree with Bluesman 11, Hartpury by far they better side and could have scored 4 tries in the 1st half, Bedford were woeful. Other than our 11, 14 and 15 we had no energy, balls taken standing still, no support play, no lines run, just not a Bedford side we’re used to seeing at GR. It looked like we were playing with 13 men and content to soak up the attacks and play for time.
Our one try was a lucky turnover from grubber through that got blocked, although very well finished by Adamson. Other than that I don’t think we threatened the try line, need to sort it out fast as I can’t see us even getting close in the next 3 matches, I hope I’m proved wrong.

What's gone wrong, you pulverised us at Dillingham Park last Autumn?

But since then Ampthill have tightened up enormously in defence and now look like a bottom of the top half of the table team, whereas Bedford have slipped down the table and have started losing to teams I would have expected them to beat.

You looked scintillating ball in hand in the Autumn, but perhaps that was just a reflection of how woeful Ampthill were then before Mr Turner and team whipped them into shape.




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Posted By: Bigbluepip
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2022 at 16:52
Originally posted by Baggins Baggins wrote:

Originally posted by Bigbluepip Bigbluepip wrote:

Agree with Bluesman 11, Hartpury by far they better side and could have scored 4 tries in the 1st half, Bedford were woeful. Other than our 11, 14 and 15 we had no energy, balls taken standing still, no support play, no lines run, just not a Bedford side we’re used to seeing at GR. It looked like we were playing with 13 men and content to soak up the attacks and play for time.
Our one try was a lucky turnover from grubber through that got blocked, although very well finished by Adamson. Other than that I don’t think we threatened the try line, need to sort it out fast as I can’t see us even getting close in the next 3 matches, I hope I’m proved wrong.

What's gone wrong, you pulverised us at Dillingham Park last Autumn?

But since then Ampthill have tightened up enormously in defence and now look like a bottom of the top half of the table team, whereas Bedford have slipped down the table and have started losing to teams I would have expected them to beat.

You looked scintillating ball in hand in the Autumn, but perhaps that was just a reflection of how woeful Ampthill were then before Mr Turner and team whipped them into shape.



I wish I knew Baggins, we looked very good early on in the season, had a great, gutsy performance and win against Jersey, and now the wheels have fallen off. 
Like many teams, we seem to have multiple changes each game, which doesn’t make life easy, but yesterday, we just didn’t want it, well 12 of them didn’t seem to. We had no ambition, made only a few line breaks, it just wasn’t a Bedford performance we are all used to and love to watch.


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Posted By: kempstonblue
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2022 at 07:31
Originally posted by Bigbluepip Bigbluepip wrote:

Originally posted by Baggins Baggins wrote:

Originally posted by Bigbluepip Bigbluepip wrote:

Agree with Bluesman 11, Hartpury by far they better side and could have scored 4 tries in the 1st half, Bedford were woeful. Other than our 11, 14 and 15 we had no energy, balls taken standing still, no support play, no lines run, just not a Bedford side we’re used to seeing at GR. It looked like we were playing with 13 men and content to soak up the attacks and play for time.
Our one try was a lucky turnover from grubber through that got blocked, although very well finished by Adamson. Other than that I don’t think we threatened the try line, need to sort it out fast as I can’t see us even getting close in the next 3 matches, I hope I’m proved wrong.

What's gone wrong, you pulverised us at Dillingham Park last Autumn?

But since then Ampthill have tightened up enormously in defence and now look like a bottom of the top half of the table team, whereas Bedford have slipped down the table and have started losing to teams I would have expected them to beat.

You looked scintillating ball in hand in the Autumn, but perhaps that was just a reflection of how woeful Ampthill were then before Mr Turner and team whipped them into shape.



I wish I knew Baggins, we looked very good early on in the season, had a great, gutsy performance and win against Jersey, and now the wheels have fallen off. 
Like many teams, we seem to have multiple changes each game, which doesn’t make life easy, but yesterday, we just didn’t want it, well 12 of them didn’t seem to. We had no ambition, made only a few line breaks, it just wasn’t a Bedford performance we are all used to and love to watch.

I always feel Bedford play better when their is no wind, rain and firm ground. But we seem to struggle with winter weather. Which with a season ending in March is not allowing us much time to play the style we prefer. 
With two home games left (which seems daft as I write it) that Friday night v Coventry looks more important than ever.


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Posted By: front5
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2022 at 20:07
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I always feel Bedford play better when their is no wind, rain and firm ground. But we seem to struggle with winter weather. Which with a season ending in March is not allowing us much time to play the style we prefer. 
With two home games left (which seems daft as I write it) that Friday night v Coventry looks more important than ever.
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Seems the weather in the UK is always going to be against Bedford then Wink




Posted By: Bigbluepip
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2022 at 20:15
Originally posted by front5 front5 wrote:

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I always feel Bedford play better when their is no wind, rain and firm ground. But we seem to struggle with winter weather. Which with a season ending in March is not allowing us much time to play the style we prefer. 
With two home games left (which seems daft as I write it) that Friday night v Coventry looks more important than ever.

Seems the weather in the UK is always going to be against Bedford then Wink


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Better weather suits our style of play for sure, but we are usually OK in the wet stuff, even if we still try to chuck it about. We just seem dull at the moment, no edge, no bite, going through the motions.


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Posted By: front5
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2022 at 20:56
Originally posted by Bigbluepip Bigbluepip wrote:

Originally posted by front5 front5 wrote:

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I always feel Bedford play better when their is no wind, rain and firm ground. But we seem to struggle with winter weather. Which with a season ending in March is not allowing us much time to play the style we prefer. 
With two home games left (which seems daft as I write it) that Friday night v Coventry looks more important than ever.

Seems the weather in the UK is always going to be against Bedford then Wink



Better weather suits our style of play for sure, but we are usually OK in the wet stuff, even if we still try to chuck it about. We just seem dull at the moment, no edge, no bite, going through the motions.
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Well as a DMP supporter I'm shocked that with the same pack as before plus a Wales U20 captain at flanker, we can no longer scrumage or compete. I can only say it must be down to a change in coaching, it's becoming somewhat embarrassing to watch. If we get the ball out the backs are phenomenal but they are just not getting any ball


Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2022 at 14:41
As a matter of interest did I misinterpret the offside ruling on the second Ampthill try? Scrumhalf had his hands on the ball but it had yet to leave the ground or the ruck so how did the Ampts 6 get waved on by sir? 


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