RWC 2023
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Posted By: Steve@Mose
Subject: RWC 2023
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2022 at 13:49
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/60692972" rel="nofollow - Russia banned from Rugby World Cup qualification, Georgia advance
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Russia will no longer be allowed to qualify for the 2023 Rugby World Cup, meaning Georgia have secured their place at the tournament in France.Replies:
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2022 at 14:41
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This seemed inevitable, and the appropriate action in the circumstances. As mentioned, almost inevitable Georgia (35 pts) will finish top, but intriguingly poised below that: - Spain 25 - 2 games left v Portugal (h) & Georgia (a) - Portugal 25 - 1 game left v Spain (a) - Romania 22 - 2 games left v Georgia (h) & Holland (a) Unless Romania can beat Georgia on Saturday, winners of Spain v Portugal the following day are likely to qualify for their first RWC, with the losers potentially losing out altogether and being leapfrogged by the Romanians.
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Posted By: billesleyexile
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2022 at 14:54
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Spain are in a bit of a purple patch at the moment so my money's on them as the second qualifier - which is one of those moments where I'm excited to see a new country coming in (especially one where rugby has been going for a long time but quite under the radar) vs Romania, who used to be a bit more of a force, and could really do with qualifying to reinvigorate the sport at home. Basically I'd be pleased for either of them. Don't know enough about Portugal. Although saying that Jacques LeRoux is a Portuguese international at Moseley, so I know that. ------------- keep the faith |
Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2022 at 14:59
Spain qualified in 1999 and Portugal in 2007.
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2022 at 19:27
Sorry - poor memory. Stand corrected!
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2022 at 18:05
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Some very good games this weekend: Romania 23 Georgia 26 Spain 33 Portugal 28 Georgia (39pts) & Spain (33) assured of 1st/2nd & qualify for RWC with one game each still to play. The 3rd-placed team goes into the repechage. Portugal (26) lie third, but have played all their games, so are likely to lose out to Romania, who have 23pts & just need a 4-pt win away to Holland (who are bottom with only 4pts) in their final game next w/e... (when Georgia host Spain)
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Posted By: Steve@Mose
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2022 at 18:07
http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/2023/news/697310/spain-qualify-rugby-world-cup-2023" rel="nofollow - SPAIN END LONG WAIT FOR MEN’S RUGBY WORLD CUP RETURN
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Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2022 at 15:12
| Spain have had five points deducted for fielding an ineligible player - a South African who hadn't completed his three year residency - and drop to fourth, which means they no longer qualify for the World Cup. Romania now qualify automatically, and Portugal move into the repechage. |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2022 at 15:51
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/61258214" rel="nofollow - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/61258214 ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 05 May 2022 at 17:53
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Now Spain get kicked out too for tampering with passports. What on earth were their union thinking?
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Posted By: Stoatgobbler
Date Posted: 06 May 2022 at 16:00
That's the second RWC in a row that they've been kicked out of.
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Posted By: Albert Fishwick
Date Posted: 06 May 2022 at 19:36
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Spanish practices indeed. ------------- That's easy for you to say. |
Posted By: Pistacio
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2022 at 15:17
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So El Mundo have now done some research and it looks as though Romania may well have fielded an ineligible player. This would mean Portugal auto qualify and Spain back in contention for an RWC spot as they were only docked 10 pts and this would get them into the repercharge group http://https://www.elmundo.es/deportes/rugby/2022/05/31/62960b6fe4d4d858278b45db.html" rel="nofollow - http://https://www.elmundo.es/deportes/rugby/2022/05/31/62960b6fe4d4d858278b45db.html http://https://punditarena.com/rugby/eoin-harte/romania-face-expulsion-rugby-world-cup-ineligible-player/" rel="nofollow - http://https://punditarena.com/rugby/eoin-harte/romania-face-expulsion-rugby-world-cup-ineligible-player/ |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2022 at 16:15
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What was that about glass houses and stones. Does that mean Ireland lose their 2018 slam and trade it in for a wooden spoon? ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Pistacio
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2022 at 15:06
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http://https://www.world.rugby/news/728050/independent-appeal-committee-decision-regarding-spain-player-eligibility" rel="nofollow - http://https://www.world.rugby/news/728050/independent-appeal-committee-decision-regarding-spain-player-eligibility spain lose their appeal.
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Posted By: OldNick
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2022 at 15:15
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ITYM https// http://www.world.rugby/news/728050/independent-appeal-committee-decision-regarding-spain-player-eligibility" rel="nofollow - www.world.rugby/news/728050/independent-appeal-committee-decision-regarding-spain-player-eligibility
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Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2022 at 15:36
| I just can't believe Spain were stupid enough to get caught doing the same thing twice! |
Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2022 at 16:30
They were simply following the lead set by Saracens.
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Posted By: Steve@Mose
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2022 at 11:29
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/62194744" rel="nofollow - Rugby World Cup: Chile beat United States 31-29 to qualify for first time
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2022 at 14:30
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Well done Chile. Not a good weekend for US sport, they lost to The Netherlands at cricket, missing out on a trip to the T20 world cup. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2022 at 09:16
| The final qualification tournament - it used to be called the repechage - will be US, Kenya, Portugal and either Hong Kong or Tonga. If Tonga beat HK to take the automatic 'Asia' place, I wouldn't know who might emerge from that foursome, altho' Kenya have a significantly lower world ranking than the others... |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2022 at 09:43
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17 (17) USA 67.17 18 (16) Tonga 67.10 19 (20) Portugal 65.08 21 (22) Hong Kong 61.72 33 (33) Kenya 52.06 ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2022 at 09:51
I was going to post rankings, but don't believe they've been updated yet today (eg France are still shown as being top). I see Tonga v HK is being played at Bokarina, on the Sunshine Coast in Queensland just N of Brisbane, at 5.30pm local time this Saturday...
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2022 at 10:45
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It says updated 18th July, but I am not sure why Ireland are not top. The IRB webpage has a story from Friday that says Ireland will move to the top if they beat the All Blacks. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2022 at 10:53
I'm guessing it's updated properly at a set time each Monday... Are the IRB still based in Dublin? If so you'd imagine they'd be onto this!
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Posted By: Pistacio
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2022 at 11:00
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Based on 25-38 Loss to Japan in November 21 25-25 draw with Georgia in Georgia March 22 I think 31-38 loss in Lisbon to a full Italy side a few weeks ago I think Portugal have a strong chance. Depends on the French clubs releasing players and people like Morgan Parra throwing their hats in the ring after 3 off from French duty. One caveat being that Portugal currently have a tendency to throw away leads with 20 minutes to go and sides with larger professoinal contingents have capitalized on this |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2022 at 11:23
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The matches are scheduled for the Autumn International window, so I believe clubs must release players. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2022 at 14:02
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Revised world rankings now out: Tonga 16th US 17 Portugal 19 HK 21 Kenya 33 (Chile 24 fyi) https://www.world.rugby/tournaments/rankings/mru" rel="nofollow - LINK
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2022 at 14:04
yes, French clubs would be very short-sighted - and risk having the book thrown at them - if they tried to stop players playing in qualifying event for tournament in their own country 10 months later...
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2022 at 14:22
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As an American, I will firstly say 'well done' to Chile. I will then go on to say that I genuinely believe Gary Gold to be one of the worst coaches in the world. He was an assistant for several quality sides, but as a head coach he: 1. Got Newcastle relegated. 2. Went to Bath and missed out on a Champions cup spot, then was 'promoted' away from any responsibility. 3. Led Sharks (superrugby, not Sale) from playoffs to second last. 4. Achieved an 11th place finish with Worcester. His extremely poor selection policy including a love of 3rd rate MLR players has now seen the US hanging their hopes for RWC inclusion on the Repechage tournament. He is the kind of pathetic coach who spends his time complaining about pitch width instead of owning up to his own shortcomings both tactically during the game and strategically in development of the side. He's had five years in post, and the team has been in a downward spiral since 2018.
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Posted By: kingsheathlad
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2022 at 17:04
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One Moseley player in Hong Kong team, Jack Coombes, scrum half. ------------- Cauliflower ear. |
Posted By: Steve@Mose
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2022 at 12:24
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http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/2023/news/733294/tonga-v-hong-kong-rugby-world-cup-2023-asia-pacific-qualifier" rel="nofollow - Tonga qualify for Rugby World Cup 2023
Pool B now complete - Ireland, Romania, Scotland, South Africa and Tonga.
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Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2022 at 21:41
| Well done to Tonga but I do still think it is wrong that Asia don't have an automatic qualifying spot. It worked fine until 2015 that every continent had an automatic qualifier. It was only because the Pacific Islands had a bad tournament that World Rugby had to rig it to get them back in. Hong Kong should be qualifying automatically. |
Posted By: Steve@Mose
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2022 at 11:59
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/africa/63609135" rel="nofollow - Kenya eliminated after qualifying loss to Portugal
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Posted By: Pistacio
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2022 at 12:26
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the article is phrased very strangely. why not "Portugal play exceptionally well" ?? I see Le Roux still scoring for Birmingham and he was in a pre repecharge camp in France so perhaps he will still feature in the rwc in some capacity .
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2022 at 14:12
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Last place comes down to the match on Friday - Portugal v USA at 15:30. Looks like you should be able to stream it from the RWC site. https://www.rugbyworldcup.com/2023/qualifiers/final-qualification-tournament" rel="nofollow - https://www.rugbyworldcup.com/2023/qualifiers/final-qualification-tournament ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2022 at 17:17
As an American, I want to see the U.S. qualify on the one hand, but on the other, the whole USA Rugby approach to qualification and coaching appointments has been so flawed that they almost need to fail so that everything is blown up and they start again. Gary Gold has to go.
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2022 at 17:33
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So unlike the situation in England. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: PiffPaff
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2022 at 19:34
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USA 16 Portugal 16 Portugal qualify for the RWC ------------- Crouch, Bind, Tweet! |
Posted By: tulip
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2022 at 08:54
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Looks like you are getting a new coach Daily Mail says they are offering Eddie Jones a 8 year contract
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Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2022 at 12:20
| We can but hope!! He'll transform American rugby with his "You win games by not having the ball" philosophy |
Posted By: Marylebone
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2022 at 10:52
https://twitter.com/t2rugby/status/1593658322934185985?s=51&t=W1dt3Ro_GmE6iccUGOBS4g" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/t2rugby/status/1593658322934185985?s=51&t=W1dt3Ro_GmE6iccUGOBS4g Fantastic scenes as Portugal qualify Courtesy of Gauthier Baudin ------------- “ Adventure and error go together” |
Posted By: Brizzer
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2022 at 19:49
 ------------- Tackle Low!!!!! |
Posted By: Steve@Mose
Date Posted: 10 May 2023 at 21:45
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/65548142" rel="nofollow - Joy Neville: Irish referee will be first female official at a men's World Cup
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Posted By: Marylebone
Date Posted: 11 May 2023 at 12:18
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3 Spanish Speaking teams and 1 Portuguese team and none of the referees speak Spanish. Obviously not the biggest issue In World Rugby’s In-Tray, but maybe fast track a Spanish speaker with the Same enthusiasm as the referee’s committee encourage ex players? ------------- “ Adventure and error go together” |
Posted By: kingsheathlad
Date Posted: 11 May 2023 at 15:18
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Wayne Barnes speaks French. 😀 ------------- Cauliflower ear. |
Posted By: billesleyexile
Date Posted: 11 May 2023 at 15:53
If we're saying that the Portuguese should be counted as Spanish for the purpose of refereeing language (which IMO is a big leap), then surely Argentina are dealt with by Italian, given quite how many Argentineans are of Italian descent? ------------- keep the faith |
Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 11 May 2023 at 16:14
Do we know none of them speak Spanish at all?
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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 11 May 2023 at 19:33
I understand speaking Spanish as Portuguese is somewhat dangerous in either country - English and zFrench are a simpler option ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: Steve@Mose
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2023 at 22:23
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/66294909" rel="nofollow - Summer Nations Series: Bunker review system and shot clock among new features at tournament
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Posted By: Steve@Mose
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2023 at 10:14
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http://Www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/66427035" rel="nofollow - England squad named - Henry Slade and Alex Dombrandt miss out
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Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2023 at 11:43
| That match in Cardiff was a good one to avoid, it seems. |
Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2023 at 14:30
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Most of the England players manage to avoid playing in it Paul. I predict a comprehensive England win in the return this weekend followed by press conferences saying it's all going to plan. Probably from both sides.
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Posted By: tulip
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2023 at 15:26
| I think they need to find a game plan by then and a scrum half who can provide quick ball |
Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2023 at 16:37
England orders, scrum halves told not to take risks, if they'd just let them play, any of them. Quirke should have been there instead of Care, but they think Smith can't do anything at 10 unless Care is there.
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Posted By: Scrumtime
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2023 at 17:02
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Smith needs to stop worrying about his hair and figure out how to get his back line into play without kicking the leather off the ball |
Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2023 at 09:22
See the previous comment. Does Smith kick the leather of the ball when he's playing across the A316? No - this whole kicking game from the half-backs is completely driven by the coaches, not the players.
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Posted By: Scrumtime
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2023 at 10:10
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Really and all you hear from coaches is they want players to take ownership. Anyway he's gone at the expense of another 8 which I think is a mistake Why do you need 3 10's ...you don't Why do you need more that one 8.. well look at Billy's injury record ... you cannot tell me that Mercer would not add more value |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2023 at 10:15
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It also helps that across the road, the forwards give the nine better ball, and the players outside him are aligned better, and the defenders have lass chance to get aligned. A lot of that is due to the quality of the opposition. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2023 at 11:29
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I never criticise a coach for his selection because I don't know what his overall strategy is and I don't know the way that individual players work together. What I will say is that if you pick the Quins players then you need to play the type of game that they are suited to, the principle of scoring more tries than the opposition, as opposed to the Leicester game of not conceding tries while you score or the Saracens way of waiting for the opposition to make mistakes and then capitalising on them. The Quins way looks best but doesn't win trophies while the other two win trophies but can look boring. If you are going down the Leicester/Saracens route then you pick Youngs, Farrell, Tuilagi and Lawrence. If you're going the Quins route you pick Care, Smith, Slade and Marchant. The real concern is the lack of power up front. What has happened to Genge and Sinckler? They used to dominate but don't any more.
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Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2023 at 11:35
| Genge has gone backwards since going to Briz and for me Sinckler looks to be carrying an injury, he's holding back. Marler and Cole are ok in the Premiership, but the increased pace at international level exposes them and their age. |
Posted By: tulip
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2023 at 13:33
And then you have got Marler and Coles. 33 and 36 Seriously l wil bet there are better props in the Champioship It seems to be jobs for the boys with Borthwick But maybe I’m wrong He brought Leicester from relegation to Winners Need to see something this weekend |
Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2023 at 14:24
| Depends on your definition of better, there will be props in the Championship who might run around quicker, but I doubt any will survive many scrums and Cole in particular wins a lot of turnover ball in the loose. He is too slow for international rugby, indeed there's a lot of the England team that are. |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2023 at 14:41
Do you, or did you, play in the forwards by any chance S-t?! Is it your contention that MS does more "worrying about his hair" while playing for England than in a Quins shirt?
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Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2023 at 15:10
I'd also point out that N'Tamack has glorious hair, kicks a lot and is a cracking fly half.
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Posted By: Se7en
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2023 at 20:07
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1. Genge 2. George 3. Sinckler 4. Itoje 5. Lawes 6. Ludlam 7. Willis 8. Earl 9. Youngs 10. Farrell 11. Arundell 12. Tuilagi 13. Marchant 14. Watson 15. Steward Marler, Walker, Cole, Curry, Billy, Care, Smith, Daly. My starting XV and bench from the England squad selected by Borthwick. What does everyone else think? I'm sure there will be a lot of difference in opinion!
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Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2023 at 21:09
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Lawes hasn't played 2nd row since 2019. He's a 6 and possibly the best around. England need a Ribbans or Martin type in with Itoje. I haven't got a clue what England's backline should be. |
Posted By: Se7en
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2023 at 05:28
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It is a tricky one. Lawes and England actually have a better win rate with him playing at lock. I think everyone would agree that he has to be in the starting team, but equally Ludlam has put in some strong performances for England and coped with the step up from club to country without taking a backwards step. Unfortunately the same can't be said for Ribbans and Martin, who have done nothing (in their admittedly few caps so far) to suggest they are international locks. Decent Prem players, but journeymen and not Test level. Neither of them would get into a top 5 international team. Whereas if you play Lawes along with Ludlam, Willis and Earl, you have a very mobile back 5 in the loose with 4 proven jacklers to do the damage at the breakdown, a crucial area and one where England have been second best in recent time. The trade off is that you may lose a bit of ballast at scrum time, but that's for the selectors to decide, and probably dependant on who is playing in the opposition scrum during the pool stages and beyond. Looking forward to it!
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Posted By: Scrumtime
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2023 at 05:50
He does not spend every 30 seconds adjusting it is the point I’m making |
Posted By: Sid James
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2023 at 10:49
There will be a lot of differing opinions and I agree with your back-line but I just don't see what others see in starting with Genge & Sinckler. Genge might get around a bit, take a few carries and make the odd tackle but you are just asking for trouble at the initial set pieces. Sinckler simply sulks his way through a match, adding not much else. They will certainly struggle against Argentina. Surely you start with Marler & Cole as they are the stronger in the scrum and they cannot be described as 'finishers'. ------------- All Knwoing All Seeing |
Posted By: Runitback
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2023 at 11:32
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Yes agree totally Sid, I think Lawes at 6 with Ribbans in 2nd row. Obviously disagree with squad make up !!! For me Randall, Mitchell, Ruskin, Mercer, mcGuigan would all be in the squad!! ------------- Run with it |
Posted By: Runitback
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2023 at 11:33
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Yes would like to sinkler fired up and not just “sulk” throughout !!! ------------- Run with it |
Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2023 at 15:55
You seriously think Smith spends every 30 seconds adjusting his hair? Seriously?
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Posted By: Scrumtime
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2023 at 16:49
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watch your TV and count next time |
Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2023 at 17:01
Genge has gone backwards since going home and Sinkler is not an international player, I agree as Marler and Cole are there, they have to start as neither will last more than 40 minutes.
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Posted By: tulip
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2023 at 12:25
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It’s a tad sad when you think Marler and Cole’s won’t last more than 40 mins. Shouldn’t be there
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Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2023 at 13:56
I've watched him live very many times and to say that he adjusts his hair every thirty seconds is complete and utter nonsense I'm afraid. Of course he adjusts his hair a lot but why exaggerate? It's just silly.
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2023 at 21:38
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So...what do A.J. McGinty and Owen Farrell have in common? A: Neither one of them will be playing in the World Cup this year. Seriously though, Farrell must have the worst tackle technique in England, and surely can expect no less than a six match ban.
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Posted By: tulip
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2023 at 22:09
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I haven’t seen the tackle but I’m sure Farrell will miss the Irish game He doesn’t seem to learn that referees are looking out for him. Scotland went close again tonight. Hopefully the Celtic clan can put South Africa out of World Cup
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Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2023 at 07:10
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http://twitter.com/i/status/1690426167319265281" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/i/status/1690426167319265281 Looks conclusive.
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Posted By: tulip
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2023 at 08:54
Surprised referee didn’t give a straight red. Biggar thought so too and that’s what started their argument
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2023 at 09:23
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The press are talking about him missing the first game. However, if the panel decides it is mid-range, he would miss the entire pool stages. And it is his second red for a high tackle this year. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: Steve@Mose
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2023 at 09:54
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From January 2023: http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/owen-farrell-england-scotland-london-six-nations-b2267615.html" rel="nofollow - England captain Owen Farrell insists he has learned from his tackle course |
Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2023 at 10:10
His last ban was 4 weeks reduced to 3 so this one will be 6-8 weeks, won't it? And I wonder if leaving him out will help England.
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2023 at 11:02
Indeed, and I dont see how he can get any mitigation as he does not have a clean record, can't take the tackle course, and can't claim a lack of experience.
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Posted By: tulip
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2023 at 11:26
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Next week we have the England and Ireland captains both banned Doesn’t give a good message to our youth starting to play Rugby Jonny got lucky with a 3 week ban. So I hope Owen gets some leniency as well But his track record is not good
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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2023 at 13:35
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I can see Argentina and Japan going through, especially as Argentina have 13 Premiership players to pick from. Japan have the discipline and energy to beat England. Whatever happened to the EQP project?
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Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2023 at 14:36
He's a liability and I've yet to see any mitigation about what he actually offers England. Our back line, which he should be getting going, is ponderous at best and Borthwick like Jones still has no idea what the English back line should be. Ford and Smith offer far more, but we still need a 9 who has insight and pace. ------------- Moderator http://www.leaguerugby.co.uk" rel="nofollow - National League Rugby Message Boards Remember Wakefield RFC |
Posted By: tulip
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2023 at 15:09
| I would have loved to have seen Farrell play Rugby League like his dad. I think he would have been terrific Tackle ability would certainly been ok |
Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2023 at 15:14
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Ironically, England's best teams of my life have coincided with particularly violent captains. Johnson, Hartley and 2019 Farrell. A long ban will be a blessing in disguise
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Posted By: cheshire exile
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2023 at 15:39
Biggar should stick to playing and leave officiating to the numerous officials.
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Posted By: Steve@Mose
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2023 at 15:54
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2023/aug/12/owen-farrells-red-card-likely-to-put-englands-world-cup-plans-in-disarray" rel="nofollow - Owen Farrell’s red card likely to put England’s World Cup plans in disarray
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Posted By: Whistle watcher
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2023 at 16:07
I think Johnno and Hartley used more considered violence then Owen. He seems to be headless. At least you deserved a smack if Johnno or Dylan handed them out.. Or are those my playing days talking??
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Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2023 at 18:28
I think some of Hartley's considered violence was beyond necessary but Johnno's was part of the game. Like Farrell these played the game on the edge of the laws. And I can't moan too much given Sam Warburton smashed a Frenchman on his head in a world cup semi final.
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Posted By: Redted
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2023 at 19:18
and in the process cost his team the match. Ill discipline costs teams games. Farrell will never learn.
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Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2023 at 19:28
| Yep. Can't argue with that. |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2023 at 21:39
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Does anyone know the rules about changing your squad after it's been named? Obviously if someone breaks his leg then a replacement comes in - would same apply if someone was to be banned for entire pool stage? Farrell hearing on Tues...
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Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2023 at 08:52
Wikipedia knows Final squads submitted to WR on 1st Sept https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Rugby_World_Cup" rel="nofollow - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Rugby_World_Cup
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Posted By: Steve@Mose
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2023 at 15:09
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/66499462" rel="nofollow - Jack van Poortvliet to miss World Cup with ankle injury
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/66498219" rel="nofollow - Romain Ntamack to miss tournament after anterior cruciate ligament injury
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Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2023 at 16:01
I believe Argentina and Japan are hoping he gets some leniency as well!
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