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Topic: England overseas player policy
Posted By: HAVANT TONY
Subject: England overseas player policy
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2023 at 10:18
Is it time to scrap the England Overseas player non eligibility policy with the news that Henry Arundel has decided to join Racing 92?



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Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2023 at 10:46
Originally posted by HAVANT TONY HAVANT TONY wrote:

Is it time to scrap the England Overseas player non eligibility policy with the news that Henry Arundel has decided to join Racing 92?

I wouldn't.

England produces lots of decent players.

But Arundel could've been a star at this world cup.
Almost as puzzling as the Joe Hawkins decision.


Posted By: Count Ford
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2023 at 11:06
Originally posted by HAVANT TONY HAVANT TONY wrote:

Is it time to scrap the England Overseas player non eligibility policy with the news that Henry Arundel has decided to join Racing 92?

I would, but only because English rugby is absolutely happy to raid South Africa for it's talent, but then in the same breath thinks it's too self important to allow England players to play elsewhere. 


Posted By: HAVANT TONY
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2023 at 12:30
With the lowered salary cap to £5 million and the rumours about Marcus smith going abroad in a years time when his contract is up at Quins could mean even bleaker times for Steve Borthwick!


Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2023 at 16:34
Originally posted by Count Ford Count Ford wrote:

Originally posted by HAVANT TONY HAVANT TONY wrote:

Is it time to scrap the England Overseas player non eligibility policy with the news that Henry Arundel has decided to join Racing 92?

I would, but only because English rugby is absolutely happy to raid South Africa for it's talent, but then in the same breath thinks it's too self important to allow England players to play elsewhere. 

I think that's Scotland you're thinking of! Wink


Posted By: Count Ford
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2023 at 18:12
Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by Count Ford Count Ford wrote:

Originally posted by HAVANT TONY HAVANT TONY wrote:

Is it time to scrap the England Overseas player non eligibility policy with the news that Henry Arundel has decided to join Racing 92?

I would, but only because English rugby is absolutely happy to raid South Africa for it's talent, but then in the same breath thinks it's too self important to allow England players to play elsewhere. 

I think that's Scotland you're thinking of! Wink

LOL I was meaning more the English league in general, rather than specifically the international team. 


Posted By: HAVANT TONY
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2023 at 09:59
An interesting take on the state of English Rugby

https://youtu.be/enHgXGWV7h4?si=QA_2HQf1L7AXp1Pp" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/enHgXGWV7h4?si=QA_2HQf1L7AXp1Pp


Posted By: clieves
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2023 at 12:45
It seems ridiculous to me that English players are prevented from playing for their national team because of where they play their league rugby. On some level it must be close to being a restraint of trade, why shouldn't they be able to maximise their earnings during their short careers. 

Did the fact most of, if not all of their players play in Europe harm the Argentinian soccer team in the World Cup? Does it effect their league attendences in Argentina? No and no ... 

I also believe players improve when exposed to different cultures, styles of play etc Time to stop being so narrow minded ...


Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2023 at 13:42
Originally posted by clieves clieves wrote:

It seems ridiculous to me that English players are prevented from playing for their national team because of where they play their league rugby. On some level it must be close to being a restraint of trade, why shouldn't they be able to maximise their earnings during their short careers. 

Did the fact most of, if not all of their players play in Europe harm the Argentinian soccer team in the World Cup? Does it effect their league attendences in Argentina? No and no ... 

I also believe players improve when exposed to different cultures, styles of play etc Time to stop being so narrow minded ...
My understanding it is the players who insist on only picking those loyal who stay in the country.


Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2023 at 14:09
In Wales the (similar) policy is in place to get more training time from the players.

In the middle if the 6 nations LRZ et al return to their clubs for a match in the rest weekend. The Wales based players stay in camp.



International sides are invitation only so restraint of trade isn't applicable.




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