Premiership Cup Semi Final
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Topic: Premiership Cup Semi Final
Posted By: gerg_861
Subject: Premiership Cup Semi Final
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2024 at 12:11
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I've waited until teams were announced to create this topic. Basically, I'm very happy with the Ealing side that I'm seeing announced. I am assuming that they have done all relevant admin in regard to players being cup tied, as there are several players on here who I don't believe played in the pool stages, though the Jersey walkover may have allowed them special dispensation. Here is the team - the only surprises for me are not having Shingler at 10 or on the bench, but it worked well against Pirates, and I'm sure we'll hear twenty times on Sunday's broadcast that Dan Lancaster is Stuart Lancaster's son. Also surprised that there is no Tom Collins after his recent run of form, but he may have picked up a niggle. Happy to see Andrew Davidson in the squad - he is a massive presence to have coming off the bench.
1 Will Goodrick-Clarke 2 Matt Cornish 3 Biyi Alo 4 Bobby De Wee 5 Barney Maddison 6 Rob Farrar 7 Jordy Reid 8 Rayn Smid 9 Craig Hampson 10 Dan Lancaster 11 James Cordy-Redden 12 Billy Twelvetrees 13 Reuben Bird-Tulloch 14 Jonah Holmes 15 Max Bodilly 16 Mike Willemse 17 Kyle Whyte 18 Jimmy Roots 19 Andrew Davidson 20 Richard Hardwick 21 Lloyd Williams 22 Dan O’Brien 23 Will Montgomery |
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2024 at 12:14
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starting XV for Leicester Tigers 15 Mike Brown [21] 14 Matt Scott [74] 13 https://www.leicestertigers.com/player/dan-kelly" rel="nofollow - Dan Kelly [74] 12 Phil Cokanasiga [2] 11 Ollie Hassell-Collins [14] 10 Jamie ShillHuckleberry [19] 9 https://www.leicestertigers.com/player/tom-whiteley" rel="nofollow - Tom Whiteley [23] 1 https://www.leicestertigers.com/player/francois-van-wyk" rel="nofollow - Francois van Wyk [46] 2 Finn Theobold-Thomas [7] 3 https://www.leicestertigers.com/player/dan-richardson" rel="nofollow - Dan Richardson [15] 4 https://www.leicestertigers.com/player/harry-wells" rel="nofollow - Harry Wells [190] 5 https://www.leicestertigers.com/player/kyle-hatherell" rel="nofollow - Kyle Hatherell [14] 6 Hanro Liebenberg (C) [99] 7 https://www.leicestertigers.com/player/matt-rogerson" rel="nofollow - Matt Rogerson [15] 8 https://www.leicestertigers.com/player/olly-cracknell" rel="nofollow - Olly Cracknell [34] REPLACEMENTS 16 Charlie Clare [88] 17 https://www.leicestertigers.com/player/james-whitcombe" rel="nofollow - James Whitcombe [46] 18 https://www.leicestertigers.com/player/tim-hoyt" rel="nofollow - Tim Hoyt [1] 19 https://www.leicestertigers.com/player/sam-carter" rel="nofollow - Sam Carter [13] 20 https://www.leicestertigers.com/player/emike-ilione" rel="nofollow - Emeka Ilione [18] 21 https://www.leicestertigers.com/player/sam-edwards" rel="nofollow - Sam Edwards [11] 22 https://www.leicestertigers.com/player/kieran-wilkinson" rel="nofollow - Kieran Wilkinson [3] 23 https://www.leicestertigers.com/player/joseph-woodward" rel="nofollow - Joseph Woodward [8] |
Posted By: TAS63
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2024 at 14:41
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Here's hoping that Ealing can make a statement versus Tigers this weekend. The "rules" on player eligibility for these games have me confused. I have seen comments about having to have previously played in the competition and also, from Gloucester, that Charlie Atkinson is cup tied, having played for Leicester earlier in the pools. Then I see Will Rigg on the bench for Exeter. Can't work out how both can be correct. Or perhaps Exeter are about to mess up and Gloucester can appeal even if they lose on the pitch. Just seems strange.
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2024 at 15:05
Agreed - Will Rigg on the bench for Exeter is very, very odd given that he was in another club in the same competition for the pool stages, which, at least to me, is much more concerning than someone who was on the same club but didn't feature due to world cup duty or similar.
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TAS63 wrote:Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2024 at 15:36
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Yes, Rigg did feature heavily in Cov's cup matches, so it does seem rather odd to me. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2024 at 15:39
| Standing tickets are now sold out for the match, with c.1000 seated tickets still available based on the Ealing ticketing site. |
Posted By: Mark Smith
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2024 at 15:41
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I've checked this with our team manager out of idle curiosity, and as long as they've played in the pool stages of the cup they can then play in the knockout phase, for any team. The 'cup tied' element seems to have been removed altogether.
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2024 at 17:18
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As a new signing, Will Rigg can only for Exeter in Semi final if He played for Exeter in the pool stages - No He was selected for a match that did not take place - N/A Exeter played Jersey He was injured - No, he played for Cov He is a front row player needed to prevent uncontested scrums - No, he is a centre At the discretion of the tournament organiser - Must be this. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: TAS63
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2024 at 17:41
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Thanks for checking it out Mark Sounds like a perfect RFU rule to me .... Bonkers but accurately recorded and defined 🙂
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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2024 at 18:24
Yes, if you don't qualify we may still let you play. ------------- RAID ON |
Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2024 at 20:39
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Live on TNT on Sunday - Tiggers seem to have four Red Alumni in their squad. ------------- Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD. |
Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2024 at 20:45
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Name those players and their position...........please ------------- Ambition should be made of sterner stuff. |
Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2024 at 21:18
Kyle Hatherell is one |
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2024 at 21:30
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Whiteley, Wells and Clare have all played for Blues over several years.
Ealing have 3 ex Blues - Twelvetrees, Birds-Tulloch and Biyi Alo.
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2024 at 21:32
Clare and Rogerson are two more ex Jersey
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2024 at 21:34
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Dan Richardson completes the set... I still haven't found out what happened to Ben Woollett
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Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2024 at 21:54
Hang on Billy 36 played for Leicester Lions first..................................
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2024 at 08:45
I've had a look online and on the socials but found nothing since his Leicester game in the cup, wonder if he went back to Oz
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Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2024 at 09:23
------------- Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD. |
Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2024 at 14:31
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Good luck to Ealing today - play well and avoid injuries ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2024 at 14:41
| 20 minutes from kick off. Weather is perfect (13 degrees and sunny, no wind). Ground is buzzing. Just finished a pint. C'"mon Yeeeealing! |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2024 at 15:23
Ben Woollett returned to Sydney mid-way through the season, I was reliably informed yesterday... back on topic, 6-0 to ET after 1st quarter of S-F
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2024 at 15:48
| HT: ET 6 LT 12 |
Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2024 at 16:15
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Ealing strike first in the second half ET 9 LT 12
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2024 at 16:31
| ET 14 LT 22 |
Posted By: ChrisB
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2024 at 16:41
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Sorry to interrupt but a fair amount of drivel from the TNT pundits on the question of the Prem, promotion, relegation and financial stability... ------------- ChrisB |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2024 at 16:43
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Austin Healey spouting drivel, surely not. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2024 at 16:47
| FT 21-29. ET were just a point behind as clock passed 78 mins, but an intercept sealed it... |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2024 at 16:47
| Ealing 21 - Leicester 29 FT. Leicester intercept and one phase to score at 79'. Great match. All in the balance right to the end. |
Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2024 at 16:49
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Well done Ealing- you kept the Tigers honest all the way to the end 👏 ------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny! |
Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2024 at 17:46
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Tigers were under no illusions here, they knew a match sharp unit like Ealing would be a handful and so it appears to be, pleased the Tigers didn't over cook the side, but they wanted a win so picked a side that was up to doing the job and Ealing made it very difficult. Good advert for the competition.
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Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2024 at 18:15
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Two Ealing breakaways and we managed to spoil the last pass for two open try opportunities. Then we give two interceptions for two Tigers tries. It was such an enjoyable game but goes into the history books as a win to Tigers.
------------- Ambition should be made of sterner stuff. |
Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2024 at 19:13
------------- Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD. |
Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2024 at 14:17
He really is well past his sell-by date nowadays. He has turned from an insightful analyst into a tabloid one with his constant hysterical interjections. "He is very seriously injured" generally means the player recovers and carries on within minutes. "That's a definite red card" is usually followed by a review in which no foul play is the result. He adds very little to a game in my opinion.
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Posted By: Whistle watcher
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2024 at 16:47
| I like him. |
Posted By: oneagainstthehead
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2024 at 16:56
He is also quite happy offering lightly veiled criticism based on inaccurate facts. On commentary he twice quoted an attendance figure of 2700. This I believe represents just the sold out standing tickets, to which must be added approx 1700 seating tickets (approx 500 unsold) to give a more accurate estimate of attendance. ------------- Speak softly, but carry a big stick. |
Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2024 at 17:23
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Sadly there is a clear bias against anything not PRL, you don't want to read some of the carp on the Leicester Tigers official forum, there are some very embarrassing posters with attitudes reminiscent of Victorian Mill owners. It is all about them being entitled and looking down from their ivory towers being more than just disdainful about clubs "beneath them". I have tried to mediate and offer the middle ground, I shall not being defending the fans on there on this forum anymore, the attitude some have is really disappointing, I remember when rugby fans used to claim the higher moral ground above the likes of soccer fans, they don't hold that ground anymore.
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2024 at 18:40
I took a look at the Tigers forum, and I have to say that it is a bit frustrating, but there was more sympathetic feedback than I had expected. That said, I was incredibly disappointed by the crowd. I do think it was under-reported (something Ealing has huge problems with), but definitely was not a sell-out, and certainly wasn't as well-attended as the Championship Cup final against London Irish in 2019. That said, that cup final was before the ring-fence went up - I believe that is directly depressing Championship crowds. It certainly didn't help that the tickets were £40 for seats, and £10 for kids. I know half a dozen folks in my son's mini's group didn't go because the tickets were too dear. The one thing that I would say to all of those tigers forum supporters, is that Ealing just built a £3.4m indoor training pitch, it is only about 200ms from the playing field. So whoever thinks there isn't investment in the facilities is wrong - Ealing would build stands tomorrow if they could get planning permission.
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Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2024 at 19:28
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Sport reflects life sadly, keyboard warriors who speak(type) without putting their brain in gear first, they would not talk like the way they do on line, when in the club house face to face. Rugby is still alive and kicking in the leagues below the Premiership, but I am more disillusioned each year by the professional game and those who follow it, orangesging their own players/coaches/management, demanding results and frankly out of touch with any sporting ethos, money really did change rugby union and for the most part, it wasn't for the better. They ridicule the Championship because they don't have large grounds and large crowds, but when I ask them what they thought of the game last season where Sale hosted Bristol in a premiership game and the crowd was below 4000, not the end of the world, but it illustrated that rugby is not a sport that draws huge crowds. no one answered my question as to how we address it.
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2024 at 21:58
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Ealing lost it in the first 20 mins. They had massive scrum pressure and 2 penalties 5m from the line that they decided to go for 3 points. Ben Ward said he was pleased they took the 6 points! Jersey would have hammered home the advantage, got some yellows cards and 14 points on the board. Instead De Wee (who would be in the bin every game in the Premiership unless he learnt) got the silly yellow and then a couple of mauls later by Tigers more than cancelled out the 6 points. It was a good effort by Ealing but a game they will reflect on that could have been won.
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2024 at 22:01
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Oh and about crowd size, yes it was disappointing but so are Newcastle and Sale. Exeter were c. 2,500 in the Championship, now look at them. However Ealing don’t need the crowd, they have what most Premiership teams have, a rich backer happy to lose a load of money and no back up plan if they were to disappear!
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Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2024 at 23:24
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It took two posts but you managed to tick every box possible. Your usual effort exceeded by far in denigrating Ealing Trailfinders.........well done supreme effort. ------------- Ambition should be made of sterner stuff. |
Posted By: Yeeealing
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2024 at 23:32
| 😂😂😂👏👏👏it’s been awhile 🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬 |
Posted By: *Stalwart
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2024 at 09:57
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It's disappointing that so few turn up to support Ealing. What they've achieved over the last 10 years or so is impressive. OK, they have the committed backer who has spent a lot of money - but the squad they have and the facilities at Vallis Way are to be admired. Not sure why more punters don't come in - is it that there is simply too much opposition for fans with football and Premiership rugby nearby? As others have said, that game was there to be won, small margins with two kicks hitting the posts and a couple of interceptions. So they are not far off being able to compete at the top level. They should be given the chance if they win the league, but we all know that isn't going to happen. ------------- *Stalwart |
Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2024 at 12:36
I have no connection or special knowledge of Ealing but I suspect their back up plan if and when the worst were to happen would be to continue with the flourishing amateur club in a much improved and secured environment thanks to their rich backer. |
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2024 at 19:07
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Not sure why we have the over sensitive Ealing fans attacking me. Is it true that Ealing had massive scrum ascendancy in the first 20 mins and didn’t make it count. Is it true when De Wee got a silly yellow and Tigers got a couple of maul tries shortly after. Ealing have an owner that gave £7,667,888 last year alone to fund the rugby operations, so the money is there. If you take Bristol they have a turnover of £14m of which £5.4m is from league income and £4.8m from ticket sales. Looking at Newcastle they have a turnover of £12.2m, £1.2m comes from tickets, £7.85m from RFU and Premier Rugby. Sale only have income of £11.7m with £7.46 form the RFU and Premier rugby. Add on the £7.7m the Ealing owner provides to either the £7.85 or £5.4m they are there. It just shows the crowd do not matter for Premiership Clubs and naturally they would be larger with more away supporters in the Premiership. |
Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2024 at 19:14
Upon further review, the crowd wasnt nearly as small as Austin Healey made out. The 2700 quoted was the sold out standing capacity. As Trailfinder said, there were likely only 500, or so unsold seats, so attendance was likely c.4500 or so.
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2024 at 09:54
| Very nice articles in TRP today in praise of Ealing and in opposition to the cartel. |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2024 at 10:06
Yes there are, and rightly so. However, sadly, the Rugby Paper has the teeth of a new-born babe. It won't change a thing. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2024 at 10:44
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Hidden away in the the RUGBY PAPER is a readers letter. A Coventry supporter shouting the praises of Ealing and that they should be given the chance to clasp the poisoned chalice with both hands. ------------- Ambition should be made of sterner stuff. |
Posted By: *Stalwart
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2024 at 14:00
I think most of us would agree that if Ealing win the league they should (if they want it) be given a chance in the top flight. ------------- *Stalwart |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2024 at 17:47
Of course they should. Every right-thinking person would agree. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2024 at 11:51
If only we had right-thinking people running the game!
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