Wasps
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Topic: Wasps
Posted By: Pirate Pig
Subject: Wasps
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2024 at 10:52
Wasps who accrued over £100M of debt whilst going bust have issued a statement this morning on their wish to return to playing competitive rugby. "We can now inform you that we have secured the core Sustainable finance and a Stadium in which to play. All we are waiting for is a competition to join that will allow us to compete at the highest level - and one that shares our values." Can I suggest that they look at the core values of rugby union of Teamwork, Respect, Enjoyment, Discipline and Sportsmanship and start at the bottom of the league structure and earn their place in the game on the field.
I would fully support the championship clubs boycotting their return to tier 2.
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Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2024 at 11:02
If they have all that. Great! Let them start at the bottom like every other new club as Wasps RFC are dead and buried with no automatic right back to the second tier of English rugby. At least they say they have a stadium so I hope this puts all that nonsense about a stadium in Kent to bed.
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Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2024 at 11:34
I think they got a politician to draft that statement. It says nothing of practical value - why not name the location for a start?
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Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2024 at 11:40
Should the RFU sanction any club joining the club in a higher league than the likes of London Welsh for example had to do, then surely litigation is bound to be successful? The rules have to be used equally and fairly, is it level 7 they have to begin at?
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Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2024 at 11:54
Pirate Pig wrote:
Wasps who accrued over £100M of debt whilst going bust have issued a statement this morning on their wish to return to playing competitive rugby. "We can now inform you that we have secured the core Sustainable finance and a Stadium in which to play. All we are waiting for is a competition to join that will allow us to compete at the highest level - and one that shares our values." Can I suggest that they look at the core values of rugby union of Teamwork, Respect, Enjoyment, Discipline and Sportsmanship and start at the bottom of the league structure and earn their place in the game on the field.
I would fully support the championship clubs boycotting their return to tier 2. |
I think that's a disgraceful slur. It was only £95m of debt wasn't it? And after all who hasn't accidentally issued a bond they haven't repaid?
(Posted on behalf of Mr Sweeney of Twickenham)
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Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2024 at 13:02
tigerburnie wrote:
Should the RFU sanction any club joining the club in a higher league than the likes of London Welsh for example had to do, then surely litigation is bound to be successful?The rules have to be used equally and fairly, is it level 7 they have to begin at? |
Technically London Welsh didn't rejoin the leagues. London Welsh Amateur, whom were already in the leagues as a legally separate club, just took on the dissolved clubs name.
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Posted By: SK 88
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2024 at 13:28
Well it's not a statement designed to win over opposition fans, and it hasn't done that!
Waffling on about values from anyone is cringy from Wasps it is amusing.
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2024 at 13:52
So, could I buy the IP from say Orrell, find a sustainable source of funds and enter the Championship with a side based in a stadium, in York while I set up a new home Lincoln.
And given a professional Rugby club probably costs North of £4m a year - what is meant by sustainable funds.
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Posted By: *Stalwart
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2024 at 17:21
Unbelievable.
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Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2024 at 18:05
As a professional rugby player, would I leave a paying job to join a former failed organisation who did not honour their debts?............................................hmmmmmmmm
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Posted By: MarkyMark
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2024 at 18:28
They hit social media hard… asking for pledges…… check out instagram and Facebook…
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Posted By: Geoff DC
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2024 at 18:54
Whilst I don't like booing in Rugby - I think if this ever comes to fruit, Wasps should be booed onto the pitch & every time they touch the ball.
It would send a clear message to the RFU & any player who took the money to play for them
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2024 at 20:42
So, when it comes to debts new Wasps are nothing to do with Wasps. But when it comes to rugby, they want to claim the history.
Can you spell Doublethink? Orwell would be proud.
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Posted By: Whistle watcher
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2024 at 06:57
Camquin wrote:
So, when it comes to debts new Wasps are nothing to do with Wasps. But when it comes to rugby, they want to claim the history. |
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Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2024 at 12:05
Geoff DC wrote:
Whilst I don't like booing in Rugby - I think if this ever comes to fruit, Wasps should be booed onto the pitch & every time they touch the ball.
It would send a clear message to the RFU & any player who took the money to play for them
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If they had the audacity to let them play in the Championship, they won’t worry about a bit of booing. By then, the damage will have been done. Every single club should prevent this at all costs. If they plan on starting so high they may as well let them play in the Prem and cast that division adrift.
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Posted By: John Butler42
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2024 at 12:13
This so unbelievable. OK find a temporary site in the south east to climb the pyramid just like others have had to do. Anything else would be outrageous !
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Posted By: corporalcarrot
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2024 at 10:41
Rothman2 wrote:
Geoff DC wrote:
Whilst I don't like booing in Rugby - I think if this ever comes to fruit, Wasps should be booed onto the pitch & every time they touch the ball.
It would send a clear message to the RFU & any player who took the money to play for them
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If they had the audacity to let them play in the Championship, they won’t worry about a bit of booing. By then, the damage will have been done. Every single club should prevent this at all costs. If they plan on starting so high they may as well let them play in the Prem and cast that division adrift.
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Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2024 at 11:15
This works if they enter the URC. (No idea how)
If they re-enter the English hierarchy by skipping a few levels, it's wrong.
If they buy into and rebrand an existing club then that is up to that club. Not sure what I think about that.
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Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2024 at 11:45
Wasps amateurs are already in existence and some of their fans are now supporting them, the only people not following the rules are Dalaglio and his leg ends.
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2024 at 16:53
tigerburnie wrote:
Wasps amateurs are already in existence and some of their fans are now supporting them, the only people not following the rules are Dalaglio and his leg ends. |
I was at Wasps amateurs last wekend for a nice little minis festival. Lots of quality rugby folks at that club still.
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Posted By: Ealing Exile
Date Posted: 29 Feb 2024 at 12:47
gerg_861 wrote:
tigerburnie wrote:
Wasps amateurs are already in existence and some of their fans are now supporting them, the only people not following the rules are Dalaglio and his leg ends. |
I was at Wasps amateurs last wekend for a nice little minis festival. Lots of quality rugby folks at that club still. |
Their 1st XV are playing Ealing 1871 on Friday night! I'm toying with going down to take a look!
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Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 29 Feb 2024 at 12:58
Ealing Exile wrote:
gerg_861 wrote:
tigerburnie wrote:
Wasps amateurs are already in existence and some of their fans are now supporting them, the only people not following the rules are Dalaglio and his leg ends. |
I was at Wasps amateurs last wekend for a nice little minis festival. Lots of quality rugby folks at that club still. |
Their 1st XV are playing Ealing 1871 on Friday night! I'm toying with going down to take a look! |
And Wasps are hosting Saracens on the 16th! That's the fixture they should be encouraging all these glory hunting internet fans to attend, rather than watching an immoral, empty pipe dream on Twitter.
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Posted By: All the Way
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 16:18
Ealing Exile wrote:
gerg_861 wrote:
tigerburnie wrote:
Wasps amateurs are already in existence and some of their fans are now supporting them, the only people not following the rules are Dalaglio and his leg ends. |
I was at Wasps amateurs last wekend for a nice little minis festival. Lots of quality rugby folks at that club still. |
Their 1st XV are playing Ealing 1871 on Friday night! I'm toying with going down to take a look!
Interested to know if you went last night or if the weather put you off. Not far from me and I occasionally go down to watch. I see there is a vets game in a couple of weeeks |
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Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 22:04
corporalcarrot wrote:
Rothman2 wrote:
Geoff DC wrote:
Whilst I don't like booing in Rugby - I think if this ever comes to fruit, Wasps should be booed onto the pitch & every time they touch the ball.
It would send a clear message to the RFU & any player who took the money to play for them
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If they had the audacity to let them play in the Championship, they won’t worry about a bit of booing. By then, the damage will have been done. Every single club should prevent this at all costs. If they plan on starting so high they may as well let them play in the Prem and cast that division adrift.
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I meant it CC. The management of the game is no further forward than it was when Roth were in the Prem. As far as I am concerned they can shove professional rugby. Promotion is earned on the pitch, not in a committee room.
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Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 22:49
All the Way wrote:
Ealing Exile wrote:
gerg_861 wrote:
tigerburnie wrote:
Wasps amateurs are already in existence and some of their fans are now supporting them, the only people not following the rules are Dalaglio and his leg ends. |
I was at Wasps amateurs last wekend for a nice little minis festival. Lots of quality rugby folks at that club still. |
Their 1st XV are playing Ealing 1871 on Friday night! I'm toying with going down to take a look!
Interested to know if you went last night or if the weather put you off. Not far from me and I occasionally go down to watch. I see there is a vets game in a couple of weeeks |
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Ealing Trailfinders 1871 won this match at Wasps on Friday night and secures promotion. They were in Counties , Middllesex and Herts 2 along with both Wasps and Saracens Amateurs. All credit to the volunteers and years of hard work from the home grown players who play rugby for the love of the game.
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