Relegation
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Topic: Relegation
Posted By: Raider999
Subject: Relegation
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2024 at 14:22
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Am I correct in thinking only 2 teams to be relegated this season (as a result of the demise of Jersey). Or is this still awaiting the resolution of the mess that is the Championship? ------------- RAID ON |
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Posted By: kingsheathlad
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2024 at 14:46
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I think it's ludicrous,here we are less than a month to go and we still don't know for definite what is going on., 😕 ------------- Cauliflower ear. |
Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2024 at 15:06
| You are talking as though someone in the RFU actually cares about the National leagues. |
Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2024 at 15:19
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Not sure why you guys are getting your knickers in a twist??? RFU announced before Christmas that there would be NO relegation from the Championship so 1 up from Nat1 to make 12 in the Champ Therefore Only 2 Down from Nat1, 3 promoted from Nat 2 to give 14 in Nat1 And Only 5 relegated from the 3 NAT2 leagues (best placed 13th survives - currently a bun fight between Wimbledon, Hull Ionians, Newport (Salop) and Dudley K only 1 of whom will remain at Level 4 And so on thereafter down the leagues (1 survivor at every level - all due to the demise of Jersey)
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Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2024 at 16:12
| This was communicated via NLR in December. Don’t your Clubs pass that info on to members? |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2024 at 16:35
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That is the plan of record. However, I understand that the negotiations about the Championship are ongoing. It looks like the worst of the RFU's ideas have been avoided, but nothing is settled. And at least some of the Championship clubs wanted a 14 team league from next season. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2024 at 18:00
14 makes sense if only for value for money for members and sponsors - and treasurers ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Camquin wrote:Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2024 at 18:24
| Yet the RFU have been making it clear at all times that the changes to Tier 2 are for 25/26. |
Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2024 at 18:47
| Exactly! |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2024 at 18:55
| The notion of a 14-team Championship for 24/25 is a red herring, I'm convinced. There may have been no definitive statement along those lines by the Champ, but Nat Lg teams have been told how the land lies, and I'd be astonished if this curveball was about to be unleashed... |
Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2024 at 19:02
12 teams is just foolishness. For those of us who cannot travel, that's 11 home games to watch - about every 3 weeks. You end up supporting another club if only to see some rugby. In my case Bury St Edmunds Having said that, for the supporter, 16 teams is best
------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2024 at 19:42
16? Far too sensible. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2024 at 20:03
.. and in a 35 week season it still leaves room for bad weather catch up and R&R ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2024 at 22:26
Exactly. Still far too sensible. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2024 at 07:32
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So this thread has moved quickly/inevitably from 'what's happening next season?' to yet another 'optimum season size/length' discussion... The national leagues just went from 16 down to 14 - there are probably plenty of people who'll claim this was 'imposed from on high by the RFU because they don't give a damn about the national leagues', but that's not accurate, is it? I recall it being more of a reflection of feedback from coaches/DoRs/players that the impact of 30 games (before pre-season fixtures + any representative games were counted) on p/t & amateur players was too great... As this is in N1 I will leave the 'optimum size of Championship' discussion for now - that's been done to death as well, and I'm certain the actual figure won't be changing between now and September...
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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2024 at 11:19
Mea culpa  ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: RedPete
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2024 at 08:32
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Sadly, my team are almost certain to be relegated along with one other. Home losses to Sale, Leicester Lions and Bishops Stortford being the final nail in the coffin. The only other question is who else, in my opinion, probably Cinderford. ------------- Compassion for the conned, contempt for the conmen. |
Posted By: Breakdown
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2024 at 10:56
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Any changes to Championship numbers (except the increase to 12 next season) will be for the newly-named league in 25-26. Open discussions still going on about the number, but 14 makes most sense. A lot depends on how open PRL are to a Cup competition. If it is a 12-team league, no Cup would mean a dearth of home fixtures. Based on the accounting numbers published by the Telegraph last week (which I haven't seen discussed on RM), the Prem clubs need every penny they've got. Hard to draw proper conclusions without seeing the balance sheets, but those clubs' P&Ls all look like potential candidates for the bankruptcy courts. ------------- Broken down. Beyond repair. |
Posted By: CJB1
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2024 at 18:38
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Just noticing, and I hate to be a prophet of doom for Chinnor, but the bottom two clubs in the Championship table are the the two most recently promoted sides. It really is a big step up and needs to be taken seriously with financial backing. All the same, best of luck to them. ------------- "What I need is a strong drink and a peer group" |
Posted By: kempstonblue
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2024 at 21:53
Currently in Bedford local media, including BBC 3CR are fawning over Real Bedford a ninth tier (promoted to 8th tier) Wendyball club. Having recently received £3.6m funding from two US cyber businessmen after a cyber currency chap took over a club, called it Real, and said his billion dollars of bitcoins will send Real to Football/Premier league. Real can offer football once or twice a week. Get attention of BBC Local non league football show. Bedford Rugby can have 3 or 4 week gaps between fixtures, little or no coverage on BBC3CR (Ampthill same boat). The RFU can say they want to grow the game, have professional (or ambitious amateur teams). Yet over Christmas/New Year/Easter, have little or no fixtures. Blues loyal fans will turn up, but I think if one of our local football clubs reaches National League (5th tier) they will struggle as families loyalties are tested. Dad wanting to go to rugby, but sons want the football. ------------- The older I get, the more the RFU leave me confused. |
Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2024 at 09:32
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Currently in Bedford local media, including BBC 3CR are fawning over Real Bedford a ninth tier (promoted to 8th tier) Wendyball club. Having recently received £3.6m funding from two US cyber businessmen after a cyber currency chap took over a club, called it Real, and said his billion dollars of bitcoins will send Real to Football/Premier league. I heard about this. It's the Winkelvoss twins. I assumed it was an April fools.
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Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2024 at 12:24
| Bitcom billionaires seem to have a habit of not being billionaires a few months later and some appear to have lost their liberty as well. Not sure I'd want one let alone two anywhere near a club I support. |
Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2024 at 16:41
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To put this on to track, I am rather nervously looking at this weekend................... Cinderford need 5 points at home to Bishops Stortford...........not impossible they are useful at home. Taunton need to win at Blackheath.........this could really go either way Leicester Lions need to win at Sale FC, but any points could save them Bishops Stortford can be overtaken by two clubs, so they have to beat Cinderford. No clubs can relax, will the break have helped or hindered sides, will some momentum still carry on for those who won last week? Wow this is tight
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Posted By: Rabbie Burns
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2024 at 19:40
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IMOCinderford and Taunton have to get 5 points and hope LL get nothing. BS need a minimum of 2 bonus points to ensure safety. LL win at Sale ensures their safety. It’s very interesting. I cannot see Taunton getting an easy ride at Blackheath as a win for Club and loss for DMP moves club up a place and I think that would mark a successful return to N1. Anyone who knows our DOR will know there will be no switch off before the final whistle next week given the performance last week when we could have folded when down to 13 men with 15 to go was very special if not pretty ------------- So many Christians not enough Lions |
Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2024 at 17:15
Especially when all bitcoin is is worthless code that people have decided magically has value.
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Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2024 at 15:40
Indeed but it has a great deal of value to the electricity company owners due to the ridiculous amount of energy required to mine it.
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Posted By: RedPete
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2024 at 10:29
I'm no economist but is this not true for all currency although not the worthless code bit!
------------- Compassion for the conned, contempt for the conmen. |
Posted By: WILD BOAR 1
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2024 at 10:33
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Posted By: WILD BOAR 1
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2024 at 13:29
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BISHOPS STORTFORD 51 (CINDERFORD A) LEICESTER LIONS 50 (SALE A) --------------------------------------------------------------- TAUNTON TITANS 48 (BLACKHEATH A) CINDERFORD 46 (BISHOPS STORTFORD H) Any final thoughts on how this will conclude?
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Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2024 at 13:53
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WB Four great clubs in that mix, and it’s hard on any of them to be in this position. I think both Cinderford and Titans will win their final games (5-2/1-4)but I also think both Lions and Stortford will get full bonus points at their respective games and will stay up. However it’s going to be tight, very tight indeed. But what do I know? Have you seen where I am in the prediction league.  Best of luck to all four clubs and all the rest of the teams in the league for serving up one hell of a season. Brilliant Enjoy your summer All the best ST
------------- Give him one with handles on |
Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2024 at 14:53
| However it turns out, it has been a heck of a ride on the roller coaster that is Nat 1. The Lions had a steep learning curve and struggled to start but pulled off some pretty remarkable wins, especially away from home. Not wishing any clubs ill, but hope the Lions can have another go next season, but it is in the players hands now. |