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No 7 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Oct 2011 Location: LONDON Status: Offline Points: 1941 |
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Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.
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No 7 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Oct 2011 Location: LONDON Status: Offline Points: 1941 |
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This Aerial shot shows the problem with Ealing Trailfinders access. Bottom right is Vallis way the currently only open access to the ground. All the arriving and leaving the ground is through this gate.
The houses in Vallis way are most semi detached and are valued around £1.125 to £1.350. Having a 10,000 crowd visiting ( all opposition supporters ..........obviously not Ealing before anyone says it ) would be over subscribed to choking point. A 5,000 crowd could be possible but other routes in would have to open. Someone suggested we....Ealing should know our place and be resolved to Championship Rugby. I think the matter is out of our hands and I personally would be upset but would accept and enjoy staying in the Championship.
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Steve@Mose ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 01 Jun 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3037 |
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Is there any direct pedestrian access from Castle Bar Park Station to the ground that doesn't involve walking via Vallis Way? On my one visit to the ground several years ago I recall walking from the station around to Vallis Way to access the ground. Only a ten minute stroll, but if there were a more direct route from the station into the ground that would be no more than a few minutes.
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No 7 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Oct 2011 Location: LONDON Status: Offline Points: 1941 |
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Castlebar Station is a small shunt line that comes from the Greenford station ( central Line ) there is a pedestrian bridge across the railway line . I have only ever seen one or two people use it.
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Yeeealing ![]() First XV squad ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Apr 2018 Location: Middlesex Status: Offline Points: 31 |
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I use it all the time , 2 trains every hour from Greenford (central line ) also Paddington station . There is a side access from Castle bar station , it used to be open (but seeing we have only two supporters now 😂 ) it hasn’t been opened for a couple of years ?
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oneagainstthehead ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Feb 2015 Location: West London Status: Offline Points: 739 |
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Theoretically, additional vehicle access could be opened up from Crossway and/or Gurnell Grove. However this would require permission and cooperation from our illustrious borough council, for whom anything with four wheels and an engine is the Devil’s chariot!
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Speak softly, but carry a big stick.
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corporalcarrot ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Location: St Brelade Status: Offline Points: 4724 |
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As an away supporter I've used the Castle Bar entrance twice over the years but usually go the Vallis Way route from Scotch Common.
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Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD.
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Rothman2 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Rotherham Joined: 20 Jan 2010 Location: Derby Status: Offline Points: 12490 |
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The only problem with the stand is that it is facing the pitch. 🤣🤣
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Trailfinder ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 05 Feb 2017 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 455 |
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I suspect this the the nub of the issue, without extra access routes the council won’t approve planning permission for a 10k stadium and hence the impasse with the RFU.
Still no statement for Ealing re the minimum standards decision…
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corporalcarrot ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Location: St Brelade Status: Offline Points: 4724 |
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Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD.
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gerg_861 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Jun 2017 Location: Ealing Status: Offline Points: 2922 |
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Ealing used to open a gate on the Castlebar Park side, which I greatly miss as it saves me a 10 minute walk (only a minute walk from the station). That route also gives convenient access from a 500 car car park at Gurnell Leisure Center via a public footpath that is a 5-10 minute walk. Vallis Way is less than a mile walk from West Ealing station on the Elizabeth Line, and the branch line to Castlebar Park is going to run more frequently with battery shuttle trains in the future. In short, much better access than Twickers, the Stoop, or Saracen's ground. Lack of statement from the club still disgraceful and insulting to the fans.
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No 7 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Oct 2011 Location: LONDON Status: Offline Points: 1941 |
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I agree Gerg there should be a truthful and honest explanation posted.
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gerg_861 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Jun 2017 Location: Ealing Status: Offline Points: 2922 |
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I've seen that stand filled 3 times - Championship Cup final vs. Irish, London Broncos vs. Rhinos, and Saracens in the Playoffs. Would love to see it filled more often, and perhaps local derbys against Irish, Quins and Saracens would do it if we weren't held down.
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workerbee ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 May 2009 Location: Wirral Status: Offline Points: 943 |
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I think there are possibly two options why Ealing have not responding to the RFU Judgement on ground criteria.
Obviously why would Ealing continue to continue to give contracts to Premiership and Welsh Divisional players and build up an even more powerful squad only to stay in the Championship and beat most opposition by 50 points. |
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corporalcarrot ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Location: St Brelade Status: Offline Points: 4724 |
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Were there any problems when Ealing played Sarries in the playoff at Vallis Way? I assume a local derby would have been a reasonable test.
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Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD.
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gerg_861 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Jun 2017 Location: Ealing Status: Offline Points: 2922 |
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corporalcarrot ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Location: St Brelade Status: Offline Points: 4724 |
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Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD.
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KnightsBoy ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Location: Doncaster Status: Offline Points: 3145 |
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Twickenham is crap to get too and from
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Richard Lowther ![]() Coaching staff ![]() ![]() Moderator Joined: 19 May 2007 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 6631 |
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On a similar point is Castle Park is the same position regarding access?
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KnightsBoy ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Location: Doncaster Status: Offline Points: 3145 |
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I would say Castle Park is easier to access
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